Everything has a bit of overlap

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• ViperActual@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Maybe we behave differently when observed because some of the electrons within us are being observed

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  • betanumerus@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Absolutely, especially those electrons in our 5 senses (retina, ear drums, and skin, nose and tongue sensors).

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• heydo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Oh man, one of my biggest pet peeves.

  “Observation” should really be called “interaction” when referring to quantum effects. The act of observation is actually an interaction with a quantum object that collapsed the wave to a point. We are affecting the quantum object by making a measurement, not by looking at it. If we don’t measure it the wave function doesn’t collapse until it interacts with the wall. In this case, the wall is the “observation” that causes the wave function to collapse.

  Ok, sorry for the interruption, carry on

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  • state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I think the term is fine. Interaction is also too broad a term, as there are many ways to interact with something. The main intent here is to observe, interaction just follows from that.

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  • Ziglin@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Works the same way for the human version in this Venn diagram.

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  • Akasazh@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Thanks for this interaction

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• hperrin@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I’d like to nominate Observer Effect for the Worst and Most Confusingly Named Thing Ever award.

  Funny meme though.

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  • betanumerus@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    “Observe” implies interaction with a photon.

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    • hperrin@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      To a physicist, sure. To the lay public, observe means you’re watching it. If you’re looking away, you’re not observing. When in reality, it doesn’t matter who’s looking, if the particle is interacting with other particles, it’s being “observed”.

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• rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  To be fair if the only way to observe you was to smack another person into you or to electrically yank you down a strange corridor then you’d probably change your immediate behaviour.

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• Akasazh@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  For anyone that’s in for a bit of philosophy about the concept of the panopticon (a prison where everyone is always observed) following the thought of Michel Foucault:

  philosopheasy.com/…/panopticism-and-power-how-sur…

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• taiyang@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  One of the older social psych frameworks called Social Facilitation says that when we feel watched by others, how comfortable we are with the task determines if we improve or get worse. I’m of course simplifying for Lemmy but you can look to that framework easily.

  They tested it with shoe tying vs putting on lab gear, measuring time to finish in the presence of others. Shoe tying got faster while lab gear, being unfamiliar, was slower.

  I often give a more modern but dated example as when I play Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2, I tend to do choke, because it’s not really my genre, but of the same era I tend to show off if I’m playing Metal Gear Solid 2, except the skateboard level of course.

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  • burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I’ve never read through the wikipedia article, and wanted to see if it mentioned my favorite fact: cockroaches perform better when observed by other cockroaches. IT DID! So cool!

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    and then it said the classical psychology mood killer: no evidence found when the experiment was replicated.

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    • taiyang@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Look, you could give me a multi-million dollar grant and I will wouldn’t want to work with cockroaches, lol. (But then again, that’s what grad students are for…)

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• banazir@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Is this a programming of physics joke?

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  • otter@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    programming of physics joke

    Yes

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    • banazir@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Whoops, I made a typo. I’ll leave it in.

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  • ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The Electron framework is open source as much as we hate on it so probably physics

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• lemmie689@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  The observer effect. They don’t want your labels!

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• betanumerus@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I would say the overlap is actually complete. It depends on what exactly you mean by “observed”, and “behaving”.

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  • lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Electrons, protons and neutrons last time I’ve checked

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    • betanumerus@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      You could keep going but I made my point.

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• hodgepodgin@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Same

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• arox@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  True. My wave-function collapses when observed. My state can only be explained in terms of probabilities.

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• HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I think one of the universal rules in science is that whatever you observe is going to be modified by said observation

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