blames pirates in the headline
goes on to say how it’s, yet again, actually an AI problem
How OnlyFans Piracy Is Ruining the Internet for Everyone | Innocent sites are being delisted from Google because of copyright takedown requests against rampant OnlyFans piracy.
Submitted 3 weeks ago by silence7@slrpnk.net to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.404media.co/how-onlyfans-piracy-is-ruining-the-internet-for-everyone/
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solsangraal@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Yet all I see a copyright problem.
drmoose@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Americans: invent a law that allows anyone to take down content online without any repercussions
Lemmy: blasted AI - ruining everything!🤦♂️
Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
Yea ultimately the story has nothing to do with piracy but I imagine they included Only Fans in the headline because its good for SEO, ironically.
DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 3 weeks ago
False DMCA takedowns need to be criminalized, companies have abused them for decades now.
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
That is the DMCA working exactly as intended. Giving companies the ability to leverage their own wealth and resources to abuse and suppress competition was always the DMCA’s goal.
mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Yup. People talking about DMCA reform, or adding penalties for false takedown requests… In reality, this is the DMCA working exactly as intended. It’s like discussing police reform, but the police are functioning exactly how the ruling class want them to.
vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 3 weeks ago
Copyright in general is about suppressing and abusing competition, there’s a little bit of difference now that the old Victorian-style copyright laws lasted as long as the author, more or less, and every legal action was taken through a court, not like these letters of happiness.
It’s funny how we seem similar to the pre-WWI mood of “everything has been invented, abolish patents”, I wonder if the “pre-WWI” part is too going to rhyme. Hope that not, of course, but most of the innovation seems to be in direct or indirect warfare (all of big tech is honestly that). And there’s one nation whose elites seem to make weird destructive moves. And which is on the down trajectory in its GDP relative to the world for the last 50 years. And which has the world’s biggest military spending.
After all, humans need a reminder that for the plethora of technologies that seem like a favorable to them weapon unseen before, there are also similarly many technologies that may be unfavorable to them weapons unseen before.
Nazi Germany used radio and encryption and maneuverability and wonderful air force to achieve successes, then the other sides used radars and computers and mass modular production and MLRS’es.
Perhaps the current rotting of copyright and patent system is because the elites think they don’t need more natural peaceful development. Global bloodletting usually heals that kind of ideas. Some things can only be learned on your own experience.
HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Just allow companies to charge a small fee to process a DMCA takedown, and establish a daily compensation rate based on view counts for the uploader (cost payable by the company issuing the takedown - not the entity they represent). Suddenly you only issue a takedown for clear infringement, with the cost paid by the uploader only when clear proof is given that it is a DMCA infringement. If there is a long delay, the uploader gets more compensation, whereas the uploader is only liable for the initial takedown fee.
Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Just abolish DMCA and hvae companies defend their intellectual property in courts instead of bribing the government in doing it.
phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
It’s a fraudulent claim of ownership. Why wouldn’t existing law apply?
DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 2 weeks ago
Can't speak to the why but in practice, nobody ever gets punished for abusing DMCA takedowns and it's a widespread practice.
balder1991@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I feel like the problem mentioned is like a drop in the water compared to the enshitification of Google as a whole. Google has been almost unusable even if this didn’t happen.
squaresinger@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Google, sadly, is truely dead.
I moved on to Duckduckgo, because the results really aren’t worse. Aren’t better either though.
NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
I find them better. Most of the time. Google is needed every now and then.
DuckDuckGo gets to the point and skips the seo stuff… Mostly.
Although at this point search is nearly useless no matter what you use.
Scrollone@feddit.it 2 weeks ago
Kagi is also super good but it’s paid.
Stubb@lemmy.sdf.org 3 weeks ago
Google’s control over the internet will harm all users as they scram further to find places where profit can be squeezed more and more until they’re functionally bankrupt.
reksas@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
not just internet, they are going to prevent android users from installing any programs they dont approve first. So most likely goodbye opensource
fodor@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
So … The piracy is not actually taking down anything.
_druid@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Villify women making money for themselves, and demonize people getting shit for free, and make it sound like these are problems for the common person!
phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Just because something is legal, doesn’t mean it’s not scummy.
And as for people getting shit for free, I support a maximalist position on right of first sale: sharing what you own should be legal in all cases. If that inconveniences some mass aggregator of content, tough shit: the ease of sharing gives the lie to the notion that the aggregator adds any value, instead, they’re just rent-seeking parasites.
myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Just the piracy of OF is ruining the internet and not OF as a whole? I mean like 89% of the shit on Reddit is some OF model advertising.
sip@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
I mean like 89% of the shit on Reddit is some OF model advertising. fr
mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I mean like 89% of the shit on Reddit is some OF model advertising.
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Siegfried@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I miss when porn subs were filled with amateur and curated content instead of prostitute ads…
manxu@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
The DMCA is what you get when you get greedy media and Internet companies to write legislation for lawmakers that have no idea what any of that means, while in the background the people have not had a chance to use any of it. It should have come with an expiration date 10 years from signing and should have been redone now that we are actually using the stuff.
humanoidchaos@lemmy.cif.su 3 weeks ago
Advertising is ruining the internet.
Copyright and patent laws shouldn’t even exist.
phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Copyright, with a reasonable term (say, 14 years) is potentially useful in preserving author’s rights to profit from their own works. Patent laws should be applied far more strictly with respect to prior art and what constitutes a significant innovation, and should never be applied to algorithms. “Same as X, but ON THE INTERNET!” patents should be rejected in every case.
gravitywell@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Yeah but really does that even matter when the top results are just ads anyway? The problem is advertising has taken over search engines and now AI makes it even less likely people “searching” for things will even bother to click off of the search website.
DMCA takedown abuse isn’t anything new, this article seems like it was just due to 404 media having to deal with it, onlyfans is tangentially related and clearly just used in the headline for clickbait purposes… I really expected better of 404 media, The issue is a valid and increasingly worse one, it shouldnt need a clickbait headline. “DMCA Automation is ruining the internet” or something to that effect would have been a lot better.
This whole thing is also a scam on content creators, people arent pirating content by searching for it on google, they’re finding out about websites by talking to people on discord (which itself is not searchable of course) and other such services. Anyone paying for these kind of takedown services is getting taken for a ride.
cygnus@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
DMCA takedown abuse isn’t anything new, this article seems like it was just due to 404 media having to deal with it, onlyfans is tangentially related and clearly just used in the headline for clickbait purposes… I really expected better of 404 media, The issue is a valid and increasingly worse one, it shouldnt need a clickbait headline. “DMCA Automation is ruining the internet” or something to that effect would have been a lot better.
That’s true, but if the important thing is to draw attention to this issue, this is a good way of doing it even if it’s a creative interpretation of the truth.
interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Hey, bit of a crazy idea , but what if we accelerated the destruction of the internet, destroyed it from within before those trying to capture it were ready to take over ?
vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 3 weeks ago
Yes. An AI alternative to LOIC is desperately needed, for every humanist with a computer to run and to attack the enemy with streams and streams of textual and visual garbage.
olympicyes@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
“We don’t really review it [the list] because we are an agent for them,” Ananad said. “For the requests that we send out ourselves, usually they get reviewed, but sometimes they [clients] do a search by themselves, and they come across some content and they flag it and they’re like, ‘We want this taken down.’ We don’t review that because that is something that they want taken down. I’m not particularly sure about this case, but that is what happens. What we planned on doing was also reviewing these but it’s usually not very fruitful, because the user is very sure they want that claim. And even if we say, ‘Hey, we don’t think you should do that,’ they’re like, ‘We want to do it. Just do it because I’m paying you for this.’ And if we just say, do it yourself, that kind of takes away the business from us. So that is basically how it works.”
What?
nullroot@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
They’re a cog in a broken machine that needs grease like every other one. It’s all just business speak for “why would we want to say something that would make the customer not pay us?”
etherphon@piefed.world 3 weeks ago
It's fuckin ruined already.
mrdown@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Pick a search engine that doesn’t hide torrent
bruhduh@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Welp, time to delist Google itself
blitzen@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Delisted from Google ≠ ruined internet
devolution@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
More like how the internet has been enshittified.
phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
It’s monopolistic corporations and incompetent governments that are runing the Internet for everyone. OF is a pox, but compared to those larger factors, OF piracy is nearly irrelevant. It might even be a positive if it damages OF.
Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Well, shiver me timbers!
Alpha71@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
This is why I use telegram.
y0kai@anarchist.nexus 3 weeks ago
Weird way to spell "How automated DMCA take-down requests are ruining the internet for everyone"
Ulrich@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
More like “How DMCA is ruining the internet” considering these companies are just complying with the law.
DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I think it says automated takedown requests, not automated reactions to those requests.
jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yeah, pretty much my takeaway. It’s not OF piracy or even enforcement of copyright, it’s out of control automation.
drmoose@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Nah this was issue before automation as well. Low paid employees aren’t particularly better than AI here nor do they care to be whe they get paid barely anything.
HolidayGreed@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Morpheus, 1999