How come Lemmy rarely shows up in internet search results?

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• Zak@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Not much links to it. It’s really rare that I see a blog, social media, or non-fediverse forum post link to a Lemmy post. That sort of thing still matters quite a bit to search engines.

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  • Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Be the change you want to see, I've been sending links like https://piefed.social/post/1062918 to friends and family when I see interesting things or funny memes

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    • Zak@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Be the change you want to see

      On my flashlight review website, every article links to a corresponding post on !flashlight@lemmy.world and displays comments from there.

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    • schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Things you send to friends and family will not be indexed by Google, so that is somewhat useless for this purpose.

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• m_f@discuss.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’ve seen my own posts show up in specific search results based on the transcripts, which is nice to see. Tried searching for “Great Scott! The hatch is opening” on Google just now and it linked to my post at discuss.online/post/14315116

  Kagi has a feature for specifically searching the fediverse. It’s a paid search engine, but IMO that ends up with their incentives aligned with mine.

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  • muntedcrocodile@hilariouschaos.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Each fediverse instance is ranked separately that’s the biggest issue. Each specific post is ranked based on the instance of the community its from due to content origin links. So the same post isn’t ranked separately but each instance is only ranked based on the posts to its own communities.

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  • alk@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Woah, I use Kagi and I didn’t even know about this.

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• TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  These days all I seem to get from search is regurgitated dog vomit AI written summaries.

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  • pageflight@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Decided to pay for Kagi, and now Google results look even more ridiculous.

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• Etterra@discuss.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Because Google is too busy sucking Reddit off to pay attention to Lemmy.

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• QuadratureSurfer@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I've actually started to see some results from Lemmy.world in DuckDuckGo search results.

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  • ayyy@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    What kind of searches?

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    • QuadratureSurfer@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I don't remember the exact search, but it had something to do with Star Citizen. A link to a post from that Lemmy.world community was fairly high on a DuckDuckGo search result.

      Along with a few other users, I've posted some useful links and info in the community over there. It looks like that work is starting to pay off.

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• 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  There’s just not enough content here besides tech and linux. Also, It’s likely about keeping the internet influence dynamics inside the silicon valley, which in part is favorable to authoritarian surveillance system like the US. And yes, they are in bed with each other if you haven’t noticed.

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• ayyy@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  From an SEO perspective, federation looks almost exactly the same as spam unfortunately. A bunch of websites with very similar content that all link to each other but aren’t linked to externally very much.

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  • kernelle@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This person gets it! After I launched my website/blog it showed up immediately on google, even though it’s content is directly pulled from my Lemmy instance. Which has been running much longer than the site, and cannot be found using search engines.

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  • Scrollone@feddit.it ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    …and you say that as if it’s a bad thing :)

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    • ayyy@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yes, it hurts discoverability. How can you have a community without people?

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• Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Is this because we’re still relatively small or some other reason?

  Pretty much, yeah. Incredibly.

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• sndmn@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Because that doesn’t make any money for Google/MS/Meta/Amazon etc.

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  • simple@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    ...No. It's because Lemmy content and users are duplicated into hundreds of instances. Websites are ranked independently and because they're so split, none of them are popular enough to be on search engines. There are plenty of ad-free sites that show up on page one.

    some speculate that because the content is the same across all these instances, Lemmy might be getting caught in the spam filter too.

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    • Kirk@startrek.website ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I also noticed that when Lemmy links do appear it’s often to a random federated instance, not the original source.

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    • breadguy@kbin.earth ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      no its all a big conspiracy

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• schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  because the WWW is now so unimaginably big that something needs to show up on the first page, and except for very obscure search terms, that “something” will probably be more well-known pages that have invested more in SEO

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• CrackedLinuxISO@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Depends on the search engine you use. I started giving Kagi a try and it has options to increase visibility of fediverse content in your searches.

  I’d guess it’s a mix of Fediverse being a poor fit for ad-oriented SEO and relatively low adoption.

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• Auth@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’ve seen league of linux lemmy show up in search results but thats dead now so rip. Other than that we dont have that many answer style threads compared with the years and years of blogspam and reddit spam.

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• Steve@startrek.website ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  How come

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