6G works in Europe and Asia. We barely have consistent 5g in the US and are looking to go back to dial up.
6G mobile could divide the world
Submitted 1 day ago by MCasq_qsaCJ_234@lemmy.zip to technology@lemmy.world
https://merics.org/en/comment/fragmenting-technology-6g-mobile-could-divide-world
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devolution@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Auth@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Please god let europe and the asian countries pick the chinese standard and leave the US sitting on its own it would be so fucking funny.
lettruthout@lemmy.world 1 day ago
This article is from 2023.
humanspiral@lemmy.ca 16 hours ago
National dominance of technology is bad for people, because Sovereigns want control and slavery over people. People benefit from cheap tech advance access, without any trickle down from the nationality of who profits.
5g equipment is all made in China, regardless of parent company ownership. There is no, afaik, extra surveillance powers compared to 4g equipment. Much of the speed/latency boosts of 5g futurism applications remains unpenetrated.
Instead of pretending that national security is for benefit of national subjects, communications protocols should focus on end to end encryption with supporting hardware, and include middleware encryption/decryption to add controlled layers to protect privacy additionally from rival intelligence interests.
In the end, consumers need to trust google or apple to some level, but open source, and different open source applications on top of the OS.
This outcome is impossible when CIA and other intelligence agencies are part of the standards process influence, but technical only protocols that ignore the oppression by default political context, support the oppression by default standards process.
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Honestly - how much bandwidth and speeds do we really need? I’m optimistic over things like Briar.
I think maybe meshnets over LoRa and such are going to become more common for communication. Right now it’s agriculture, hiking and doomsday devices, but maybe they will become more popular.
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 19 hours ago
most consumers data plan isn’t even allowed to reach 4G speeds, at least where I live in europe. the only “advantage” of 5G is more capacity for smartshit, and internet connected cars that upload live video footage from their like 4 cameras everywhere they go like a mobile surveillance station.
hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org 18 hours ago
The main advantage of 5g was never really speed, but rather efficiency. It allows the same speed to use less spectrum.
Kite@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
I don’t have any G’s where I live. Could we maybe just try to get everyone/everywhere at least basic coverage first?
moseschrute@lemmy.zip 16 hours ago
I have 5g but I’ll give you one of mine. Now I still have 4g.
UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
The thing with new Gs is that they recognized and try to improve that situation. 5G for example includes low-frequency bands that allow to cover much more area with one tower, making it more feasible for less populated areas.
reddig33@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
And yet I’m in a major city and often my phone says LTE.
I have not been impressed with 5G.
sykaster@feddit.nl 19 hours ago
Where do you live?
CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 19 hours ago
Jeorjia
ABetterTomorrow@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
No one has full 5G yet, not our problem
henfredemars@infosec.pub 1 day ago
I still don’t have 5G in my area.
comador@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Welp, it was fun while it lasted…
Now all international travelers will have to go back to the early 00s method of buying burner phones and calling cards to be able to make a call.
Trimatrix@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Something somethING ICE in bed with Telcos to deport foreigners buying burner phones?
etchinghillside@reddthat.com 1 day ago
Meh - just give your money to Musk for the satellite phone.
CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 19 hours ago
Dudes a pile of shit but a recent flight had Starlink and that was the first time I’ve ever actually had usable internet on a plane. I was streaming Plex on my phone from my home server while flying over the Pacific.
solrize@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Tldr? Why do we need 6g anyway? What is the benefit supposed to be? Not higher transfer speeds I hope. We need modes with better support for low power and weak signals. For low power, 2G is superior to everything that came after it.
yaroto98@lemmy.org 1 day ago
Tldr: different countries wanna do 6g differently. Actually a big problem is the big beautiful bill that just passed in the US. Wifi6e/7 6ghz spectrum that was reserved for wifi got approved to get auctioned off. But it’s already a global standard. If us cell cariers buy it up and use it to make faster 6g cell speeds (short distance very high speed). That’s going to fragment standards globally.
Cell carriers don’t currently use anywhere near all their spectrum they already own.
hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org 18 hours ago
I don’t think that’s exactly right. Spectrum that’s already reserved for unlicensed use (wifi) was explicitly excluded from the auction directive.
There may be some spectrum in that band that’s not already reserved for wifi yet that will end up auctioned, though.
PleaseLetMeOut@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
It’s encryption has been broken for some time now. Which leaves it vulnerable to some pretty serious security issues, on top of the obvious issue of people with the right know-how just listening to your calls and reading your texts. Which most people probably don’t want.
(It’s also how most cops/feds listen to phones and intercept text these days.)
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
I was so disappointed going from LTE to 5G and realizing the speed difference is minimal. I was so hopeful it would be mega faster! Going from gigabit at home to mobile speeds is sad.
cynar@lemmy.world 1 day ago
For many places, your signal isn’t the bottleneck. It’s the back haul from the tower to the main internet. 5G won’t help if there’s a straw connected to the fire hose of 5G.
exu@feditown.com 23 hours ago
Thing is, there are two different types of 5G. 5G NSA is using 5G, but on the same 4G network resulting in little to no speed change. And then there’s 5G SA, the one you actually won’t but probably isn’t deployed anywhere outside major cities if that.
thejml@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Same. I kinda wonder if it’s saturation… when 5G was first announced and I happened to be in one of the first cities with it on a business trip, and I happen to have just bought a new phone that had it and it was AMAZING. Sites were snappy, it was like I was on my personal wifi.
Ever since it became more widespread, I can rarely tell a difference between LTE and 5G and honestly, If anything, my phone is slower when I see the 5G icon.
MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 hours ago
Likely more efficient use of spectrum, which means more clients on a tower without everything grinding to a halt.
dddontshoot@lemmy.world 1 day ago
How about we just don’t turn iff 4g or 5g.