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Tax breaks for huge US-style utes cost Australians over $250m in foregone revenue in 2023.

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Davriellelouna@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨australia@aussie.zone⁩

https://australiainstitute.org.au/post/big-ute-loophole-cost-taxpayers-over-250-million-in-2023/

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  • makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    “The Australian public is subsidising big, dumb utes by hundreds of millions of dollars each year”.

    I like this guy.

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  • Taleya@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Tax the fuck outta them, no one wants these bloody things except for a highly select pack of cunts and they can go fuck themselves

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  • FireWire400@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It’s a bummer smaller, Aussie utes aren’t a thing anymore after Holden was killed and Ford axed all their exiting cars. If you want a ute in 2025 it’s pretty much gonna be big either way; of course those US shitmobiles are even bigger but still.

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    • WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Yeah my cousin had a new big truck for work and I thought it was an F150 or whatever, but it’s some Chinese car, which is still like 25% smaller than an F150.

      Most of these cars simply should not be legal. It would make sense if they could carry more than old utes but they carry less, and do it less efficiently. It’s like the fossil fuel industry is manufacturing cars to consume more fuel. There needs to be a carbon tax and similar to prevent this type of obscene waste.

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    • No1@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      It’s hilarious that you can see US youtubers, Eg, Tavarish salivate over the old Aussie utes.

      And some of them import them lol

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      • Pat_Riot@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Hell, we used to have compact pickups. Chevy S-10, Ford Ranger, Dodge Dakota, not to mention similar sized offerings from Toyota, Nissan, Mazda, and Isuzu. They were very popular with consumers, but what the people want means nothing to the companies trying to squeeze every drop of blood they can from the turnip of society. The used market for small pickup trucks is crazy. $8000 asking price for a beat up 1987 S-10 is common and reprehensible.

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  • Salvo@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    My biggest complaint is the ANCAP rating system.

    Since these vehicles are classed as Light Commercial Vehicles, they don’t need to be rated.

    Meanwhile other vehicles are getting lower and lower ratings because they wouldn’t survive being hit by one at full speed.

    The ANCAP system needs to be recalibrated for real world use. If a pedestrian gets hit by a 1200kg vehicle, they are in for a bad day. If a pedestrian gets hit by a 3495kg vehicle in the same circumstances; no more pedestrian, and the oblivious driver of the Ram wouldn’t even notice that they hit something.

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    • quoll@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      ahh like how we banned a bunch of perfectly safe kei cars …com.au/…/imported-kei-cars-stranded-australia-bl… :\

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      • Salvo@aussie.zone ⁨32⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        Our country must be an international laughing stock by how many of our drivers are incompetent.

        If you watch a few episodes of DashCams Australia, you will see some of the worse road-users in Australia, and they are all either oblivious or entitled and don’t give a shit about anyone else.

        Considering how few people don’t have DashCams and how DCAU don’t show snuff films, there must be hundreds of other incidents where they either weren’t caught on camera or were unable to be published due to fatality or serious injury.

        Also, international manufacturers struggle to keep up with demand for replacement car parts; I wouldn’t be surprised if there are some production schedulers asking themselves “why are we shipping so many parts to Australia for major collision repairs?”.

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    • pHr34kY@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      ANCAP shits me.

      The side impact test is done at 1600kg. A small < 1000kg car is expected to take this kind of hit, while these stupid monster trucks don’t even have to punch half their weight.

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      • Salvo@aussie.zone ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        My other complaint is that ADAS systems weigh heavily in their ratings, but most factory ADAS systems are barely functional, with false positives and false negatives.

        Many drivers use Advanced Driver Assistance Systems as a substitute for driving skill and paying attention to traffic conditions.

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      • Salvo@aussie.zone ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        ANCAP don’t even do their own testing. They literally just copy ENCAP ratings.

        That is why so many vehicles in the Australian market are unrated.

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  • Aussieiuszko@aussie.zone ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    If the government isn’t going to act, I think it’s only reasonable for people to start torching these things on the side of the street.

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  • tombruzzo@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I do not like that these are being subsidised by the government here.

    I don’t want to admit it, but a lot of these chest thumpers have actually been the cars to give way to me on the bike. That could be because I’m extra cautious around them because of their size.

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  • BlueSquid0741@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Walking through a carpark and there was, I think a Silverado. The edge of the front bonnet was at shoulder height.

    How do these people check their oil? Get up on a ladder every time?

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    • No1@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I’ve seen a little set ot steps pulled out to help granma and granpa crawl onto the back seat lol.

      Dangerous as hell for those oldies. If they fall getting in or out…

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      • FireWire400@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        One of my Aussie relatives has a top of the line Dodge RAM Laramie and it literally has sidesteps that automatically slide out when you open the door…

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    • vaionko@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Soon they’ll need combine harvester style integrated ladder to get to thr engine

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