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Medieval legal experts inventing the ultimate loophole

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Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Grumpus_Maximus@thelemmy.club⁩ to ⁨historymemes@piefed.social⁩

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  • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Very recently some judge in Poland claimed that when a bunch of guys raped a girl it wasn’t legally a Gang Rape because they took turns. I kid you not.

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    • DahGangalang@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Wow, Big Woof.

      Can you pass a link to that?

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      • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Looks like it was more complicated than that: https://zywiec.naszemiasto.pl/gwalt-w-pietrzykowicach-protest-przed-sadem-ws-zbyt/ar/c1-3717644

        So I knew they sentences they got were crazy low and that one of the guys was a son of a politician but looks like the justification from the judge I heard was just something made up. The appeals court rejected the sentencing but I don’t know what the final outcome was.

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  • gegil@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    It suck that if you remove “13th-century” from this sentence, it will still be relevant today.

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    • Visstix@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Only in countries that still live in the 13th century

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      • FatVegan@leminal.space ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Like germany where they claim that you can’t rape someone you’re married to

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    • Taleya@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      “If it is a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try and shut that whole thing down”

      Todd Akin, 2012

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      • tomenzgg@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Fun fact: Akin apologized in the aftermath of those comments (while he was running for reëlection, of course). Then, two years later, decided it was worth publicly rescinding that apology.

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  • OwOarchist@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    And if you didn’t get pregnant, there’s no evidence, so I guess it didn’t happen. (Unless the ruling party doesn’t like that guy.)

    So, yeah. Someone friendly with the ruling party can pretty much rape with impunity, as long as there aren’t too many witnesses.

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  • Denixen@feddit.nu ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Does enjoying something automatically mean one consented to it? I wonder what analogies one can think of for men to help them understand?

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    • Dookieman12@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Do you like steak? Most people do.

      Imagine someone strapping you down and force feeding you a steak. Under normal circumstances, where you have complete control of your body, you’d probably enjoy that steak very much. But, in a situation where someone else is controlling your body and forcing it on you, you wouldn’t enjoy eating that steak at all.

      Now imagine someone strapping you down and force feeding you literal shit. That’s what being raped is like.

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    • HorreC@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      That is a two pain point issue, some of the people spouting this shit want that, they want control over the female and the grubs they made. The other just wanna force someone to take care of them not having to be there when they could be on a beach somewhere lurking on drunk ladies.

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    • hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Considering the context, bi-weekly meeting with ex-wife and kids maybe?

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  • HorreC@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    isnt this still the strawman they put up, you cant get pregnant if you didnt want it bullshit?

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    • deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      “the body has a way of just shutting that down”

      Or some such nonsense from some senile US senator.

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      • HorreC@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Wasent one of those idiots a fucking medical doctor (god I hope they took his certs).

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