“Chinese authorities have far-reaching access rights to personal data within the sphere of influence of Chinese companies,” she added.
And that’s different to American companies how? None of this climate of data harvesting is currently good for us.
Germany deems DeepSeek as illegal content after it is unable to address data security concerns, and asks Apple and Google to block it from their app stores
Submitted 2 weeks ago by Pro@programming.dev to technology@lemmy.world
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Hamartia@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Pirate@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
It’s simple: America Good, China Bad.
There isn’t much more depth to it than this. BTW even Lemmy is sadly suffering from the same brainrot.
KurtVonnegut@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
Yes. But “America bad, China good” is also brainrot.
gian@lemmy.grys.it 2 weeks ago
At least formally, with US companies there are agreements that the data on european citizen need to stay in EU, with China no
Pirate@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
I prefer China’s honesty to the US’s dishonesty.
Hamartia@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Which gives superficial comfort as it gives scant protection from how aggregate data is used to upend democracy.
ObtuseDoorFrame@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
Sure, as long as you also remove ChatGPT.
unixcat@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Do chatgpt, claude, gemini, llama, etc keep user data in the EU?
LuigiMaoFrance@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Sure ;)
General_Effort@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yes. You’ve heard about billions being invested in new data centers in the EU?
Then there’s also the “EU-US Data Privacy Framework”. People here don’t really understand what the GDPR is about.
deergon@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Regarding DPF: iapp.org/…/schrems-addresses-emerging-questions-a…. It’s unlikely to hold unfortunately.
vane@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Commissioner and his friends use those apps so can’t ban them.
korsystems@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Germany is known in Europe for being one of the biggest removed of the USA so that doesn’t surprise me more than that.
Zealousideal_Fox_900@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Lol rage harder tankie
febra@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
But American companies harvesting our data and sending it straight into the hands of the Trump administration and his harem of tech whores like Zuckerberg, Bezos, Altman are a-okay. I’d rather have China harvest my data, because China doesn’t have as much influence over my life here in Germany like the US does.
ThatsTheSpirit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
As an American, i would rather cpc or russian agents poison me than the dumb totally avoidable shit thats about to happen with all that data in this country.
wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
I will say it is fantastic you can run deepseek models locally
Some of the deepseek r1 distills are still the best small models. The 8b ones are good and can run on a lot of devices.
Mwa@thelemmy.club 2 weeks ago
Why not run Qwen.
Not deepseek but still its better.BB84@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
the distills are good for their sizes but not even close to being comparable to the full model in quality
nivenkos@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Why not just leave it up to the users? Maybe put a warning?
Why does the government have to ban everything and treat us like children?
dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Because most people reason like children and act like children.
Had one dude buy a bunch of those none refillable vapes. Ran around with 3 of them and talked about that the government should ban them because people like himself throw them in the woods when done. That is a real person.
trolololol@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Politicians also act like children. There’s no evidence they get their authority from being either smarter or more competent than an average person.
jwmgregory@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
often in cases like this there is no real personal responsibility involved, and your disdain stems from a lack of empathy.
nicotine is a strongly addictive chemical and lots of users have active addictions. in many locales and markets disposable vapes are increasingly becoming the cheapest or only way to scratch that itch, in addition to americans being propagandized for years into believing that vaping in general is somehow a healthier way to deal with your nicotine addiction. either way vaping is heavily pushed on nicotine addicts in america to such a point that i genuinely am not so certain personal responsibility factors into the equation anymore. it’s very similar to opium in china during the century of humiliation or the war on drugs or something - just a clearly systemic problem spurred by greedy people against the poor that is justified to other poor people through fallacious moral reasoning.
the guy you mentioned… knows the obvious point that buying disposables is contrarian to his opinion. that doesn’t invalidate his beliefs. he’s an addict, not necessarily a hypocrite. instead of being crabs in a bucket and tearing down the people who already agree with you why don’t you try and point people’s anger rightfully towards big tobacco companies who managed to swindle the world into picking up the nasty habit again in the name of avarice. those people hurt you, me, and the guy in your story. they deserve you being mad at them, not this rando you mention.
scrion@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Congratulations, this is how you get exploited by corporations.
Zealousideal_Fox_900@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Good. Fuck off tankies crying about this. Deepseek is just like all the other AI leeches off of resources.
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
But they aren’t doing anything about the other ai
ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
AI by white techbros is okay. Chinese competition is bad. That’s the real story. All the rich people are terrified of Chinese competition in the US, and now Germany has a bunch of Nazi bootlickers too.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Unhinged
Zealousideal_Fox_900@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
You making a self portrait with word art? Good start for you, I guess.
BB84@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
your comment is extremely lemmy dot world
why tf are you still on dbzer0
Zealousideal_Fox_900@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
R U Stupid? Like seriously, DBZER is an anti tankie site you clown.
highduc@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
China bad! 😱
cyd@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’m curious whether Deepseek will gaf about this. They’ve been rather uninterested in commercialization, and the app is mainly a way of showing off their model, which itself is released open-weights. In fact, it’s literally impossible to spend money in the app! They sell tokens but it’s API-only, and you can’t spend it in the app.
So it’s entirely possible the Deepseek will shrug, let their app be banned in Germany, and keep doing what they’re doing.
Dojan@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
Hoping this sets a precedent for the same kind of regulation about non-Chinese corporations. Otherwise it just comes across as sinophobic grandstanding and not actually about protecting the privacy of the end-user.
Lileath@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
The bavarian police just implemented fucking Palantir for their own use starting in august, so nah it’s just sinophobia.
cmhe@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You are comparing Bavarian police to Berlin privacy officers.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Like the ‘impartial’ IAEA and their Mosaic system
msage@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
Oh man, can you imagine that??
Glad none of this ever happened before, right???
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
OC it is about that.
Same with Tik Tok, they don’t like news they can’t control and censor.
www.tiktok.com/…/7498354878473932054