Robot chefs take over at South Korea’s highway restaurants, to mixed reviews

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• Goodtoknow@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  why is automation removing the joy and creativity of cooking instead of the dishes, which is what the person is left to do.

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  • OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    What do you think a dishwasher is

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    • oldfart@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      More work to prep dishes for washing than actual help

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  • jrs100000@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    How much joy and creativity do think there was in these places before?

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    • jpreston2005@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      When I was a cook, even if I was just making something simple, I could still find creative satisfaction in a variety of ways. How you sprinkle on the garnish, plating, using a little more of this, a little less of that. Food to a chef is like art designed to be destroyed, so with the temporary nature of the medium, it really allows you to be creative in a multitude of ways. You’re not hung up on making it perfect, because it’s just about to be eaten, so it let’s you be more free with your design choices. It can be fun creating art while you’re supposed to be working.

      but if my job was suddenly just washing up after a machine… well. That will get old real quick.

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    • invertedspear@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      More than there was before the cooks got put on dishwashing and floor mopping.

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  • ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Automation should replace cooks, but in fast food restaurants instead of proper ones. They should free up people who work brain-dead jobs at Mcdonalds or KFC to let them work at other places, including other proper restaurants that don’t make fast food.

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    • Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Lol yeah right. I’m sure the only thing stopping Brandon from working at a Michelin restaurant is his McDonald’s job off of I-95

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• cm0002@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Are they really making the food worse, or are people just biased against it because a robot made it? Because humans are perfectly capable of making shit food themselves as well

  In any case, in a world where 1st world countries actually took care of their citizens this would be a non-issue. Either there would be some sort of UBI program in place for workers that get replaced by robots or a worker re-training program or a combination of both (e.g. people still have an income during that training).

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  • partial_accumen@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Either there would be some sort of UBI program in place for workers that get replaced by robots

    UBI wouldn’t be just for workers that get replace by robots. The “U” in “UBI” is Universal, meaning everyone gets the Basic Income. From the guy with untreated mental illness that hangs out in the park to the richest billionaire.

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    • cm0002@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Well yea, but rolling it out slowly as people get “displaced” is how it would realistically get started IMO. It would be quite a taxing program for any country to just suddenly start

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  • x00z@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Only humans can add love.

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    • Goretantath@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Thats called “eyeballing the recipie”

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    • ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      There’s no love in food, only improvised measurements. Adding too much or too little of something alters the taste in subtle ways to make the dish taste unique.

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  • ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That’s what I’m thinking. I bet if you put a human-prepared meal and a robot-prepared meal next to each other and didn’t tell the customer which is which, they wouldn’t be able to tell. It’s like how wine tastes better if you think it’s more expensive.

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• CalipherJones@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  South Korea is genuinely fucked as a country. Population decline is going to ruin them. It’s going to ruin a lot in the U.S as well.

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  • partial_accumen@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The USA was actually on a survivable path with our low domestic birth rate because of the large immigration was compensating. Well, now we’ve fucked that up royally by kicking out our immigrants, and also made ourselves a pariah on the global stage so no new immigrants will want to come here.

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    • Ledericas@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      also the tariffs, and the anti-science funding cuts have turned people off from the US.

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  • TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Korea is not fucked. We’re doing better than the US at fighting fascism. Birth rates are on the rise. Universal Healthcare is already decades ongoing. They’re proposing a four day workweek. It’s fucking paradise compared to much of the world.

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    • Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah that 4 day work week might become a thing. You’ll just work 17 hours a day. Samsung just extended their work weeks to 64 hours a week regarding semiconductors street complaining about the 52 hours limit. You guys are good at fighting facism and corruption as long as Samsung isn’t involved. And your birthrate raised by .03 to .75. A healthy population needs like 2.1. And you guys are not immune from inflation and global markets so your cost of living has gone up like everyone else. And considering the poverty rate for the super young and the really old are sky high things aren’t looking good.

      I’m not trying to shit on South Korea but you guys are just as fucked as everyone else. It’s no paradise

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  • Ledericas@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    apparently SK is worst off than japan.

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• TRBoom@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I lived in Korea for a couple of years and ate at some of these places while traveling.

  It was honestly always good. Basically you do a quick order, get a ticket, then get your food. I always got the fried pork cutlet. That shit was the bomb.

  Now that I am back in the states I miss the level of care and dedication that Koreans put into the food they make and I’d go back again just for the eats.

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  • CosmoNova@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They are useful when someone works late shifts and wants something proper at like 12pm when every kitchen worker has long gone home. They usually offer a more limited menu but it‘s honestly a neat idea.

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• CosmoNova@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  These have been in use in German cantinas for a while as well. Usually inside hospitals or larger office spaces.

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• Goretantath@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  So, why not just replace humans at odd hours of the night some rando walks in, and keep em during normal buisness hours?

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  • Nighed@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Because then you have an expensive robot not being used, while still keeping the wage bill.

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• veeesix@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Never thought about it before, but is there science fiction with a premise where humans might someday forget how to cook because it’s no longer a part of the culture?

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  • jacksilver@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Star trek touches on it a bit. Some people definitely still cook in the shows, but it’s almost seen as a thing for special occasions.

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    • veeesix@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That’s a good point! SNW does have Pike cooking for some of his crew on occasion.

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  • Xatolos@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The Feeling of Power might be close enough. It’s an Isaac Asimov short story from 1958. Basic plot is that people have become so reliant on computers, they can’t do basic math or counting. It’s about what happens with mental decline with making machines do all the thinking. (There is more, and the link explains the story but I feel that I shouldn’t include spoilers, even for a 50+ year old story.

    If you want, you can read the scans of the original here.

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    • veeesix@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That’s so cool, thank you. I never delved into Asimov before, but it’s sounds like I really should.

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  • Carrolade@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Not off the top of my head. Cooking is frequently a recreational hobby though, it’s essentially an art form. So I think it’s about equally likely that dancing, painting or making music fade away.

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    • sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Sewing is fading away but maybe that’s different enough

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• ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I think this is what SK has to do, given their slowly dwindling population. Staffing restaurants with robots will let the people who would have worked there get employed at places that may need a human worker.

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