Submitted 3 weeks ago by WhiteHotaru@feddit.org to selfhosted@lemmy.world
I recently discovered yunohost, a French project for easy selfhosting. Does anyone have experience with that?
not myself, but my stepdad tried it with 2 decades of IT and linux sysadmin experience.
basically, it is great if you want to host like 2 or 3 standalone services on a pi to get into understanding how the basics of selfhosting work, but for homelabs and deep customization, you’re better off with docker.
Des, it has, what most others lack: Single Sign In and many Apps.
Elena Rossini (@_elena@mastodon.social) is a journalist who’s gotten into the fediverse and self hosting with Yuno Host. She’s documented it on her blog. It’s worked out really well for her.
And they just boosted toot.aquilenet.fr/@yunohost/114431095460107487
yunotryityourself?
I’ve used it when I started out and it’s good, I can recommend it if you just want something where you can hit install and it works. I just use docker containers now though because I have more experience and it allows to set everything up exactly how I want.
Same process here, started with yunojost and now using docker directly. Still Yunohost got me into self-hosting when I didn’t know anything about it, definitely recommended for starting out.
Yunohost is okayish. Some apps sadly are badly maintained and therefore upgraded with more delay than I considered acceptable (but that has improved afaik)and integration into a single “look and feel” is a bit lacking. Nevertheless it’s solid in the end.
If you are willing to pay something Cloudron may be an alternative for you as well - very well maintained product, good support team and rock solid from my experience - and it’s a non-US/non-China company. (German to be exact) But it costs money for more than 2 applications.
Nice! I live in Germany and your situation looks similar to mine. I started with Linux 20 years ago and bought a Synology about a year ago. I have my most essential services (backup, photos, Media server and paperless) running on that machine in my local network. I started with a small VPS and a blog after this, to see if I could handle managing a server. It went well.
We have a small cabin we share with others and I wanted to set up some basic services like a calendar. Went across a post about yunohost and gave it a try.
Have a look at Cloudron as well,then. It’s free for 2 Apps and Johannes (the founder) is a fairly nice guy from Bavaria.
Anyway,yeah. I have a different post here what I self host (which doesn’t even include everything…) so it’s a slippery slope.
I did some testing with it, because I believe more people should be able to self-host.
I like how it is implemented. It has good support for email. Many apps support SSO.
The critical part to me is how up-to-date applications are. I started a small project to automate version tracking, check out:
alexpdp7.github.io/…/nextcloud.html
; so for example, the YunoHost Nextcloud app does not lag much behind upstream. My intention with this is to let people see that they have been updating Nextcloud dilligently for two years; they might pull the plug tomorrow, but it’s a good track record.
(I’d like to add scrapers to other projects similar to YunoHost. My ultimate goal would be to be able to choose a list of apps you’d like to self-host, and see which projects like YunoHost carry the applications you want, and compare how they track updates.)
Used for years, then moved into docker containers.
It’s pretty rad, especially as a domain controller.
Looks good. But I got burnt with CasaOS. Only App organizer I still use is dockge.
+1 for dockge. But that’s something for later. Yunohost is a great way to get a feeling for selfhosting.
what do you meant with burnt? i thought its even easier than yunohost?
Burnt my fingers. It’s not enough freedom for changing compose settings. But that’s just my two cents.
Been using it for 10+ years. Love it.
Umbrel, Cosmos Cloud, Caprover, Yacht, Dokku, there’s a billion of these things.
Not exactly. Yunohost offers solution to host services openly to the internet thanks to simplified configuration of domains (and it even offers free domains) and reverse proxy. Also it has built in email server (not client, but the server). Apps are packaged in its own format and with unique configuration, it is not just some wrapper for Docker Conpose
Oh thats pretty neat. I know Cosmos Cloud had some interesting functionality similar to that, with Oauth support for everything. Though I’ve not tried it.
Nice as a starting point, but not enough features to make it worth it for advanced setups.
What do you miss?
Ability to properly work with apps outside the officially recommended list, to customize Docker containers etc.
At least from what I can recall from 1-1,5 years ago that I used it.
Use it everyday. I self host a number of fedi services. It's a great os.
Most of the apps are great, but there are a couple that are no longer maintained.
I was searching for something like this! Seems really promising, I’ll check it, thanks!
I really like it. Yes, you have way more control by using docker/nixos/etc of course, but for things like seafile or nextcloud, yunohost does the good ol’ 80% job with 20% of the effort and time, at least for me.
I had the same experience as many here. Great place to start out and if you don’t need or want more control then it’s perfect. I ended up on unraid and mostly use docker for apps.
For my vps i use yunohost and for selfhosting from Synology to unraid now. Yunohost is very time saving with subdomain and security Management.
Big part of me loving selfhosting stuff is that I get to learn things a lot. I think it’s pretty amazing that these sort of projects exist but I’ll always use good ol’ $BASIC_SERVER_OS.
If I host a website on Yunohost can I push the files from Codeberg to it using git?
It can be done using Forgejo Actions. I did something like that with Github Actions. I host static website on my Yunohost server using app named my_webapp and I wrote Github Action Workflow that deploys it into my_webapp directory
I think this is not possible to configure just with yunohosting standard tools. My guess would be you would not need yunohost to do so. I have a blog made with a static site generator and I just push the whole output to a directory under /var/www. Plus there is an nginx running as Webserver and to redirect traffic to subdomains.
I thought that I would need Yunohost to take care of all the web hosting stuff in the back ground…? Are you saying to just push files into the VPS barebones, or into Yunohosts website app shell? (Sorry I’m new to VPS stuff).
And how would you push the files from Codeberg? what is the method?
Yunohost has been recommended to me a couple of years ago and this is a software that brought me into #selfhosting.
Thanks to Yunohost’s application catalog, I got familiar with quite a few interesting applications, learnt about their capabilities, and I still use many of them today, such as Hedgedoc and Wallabag. In addition, Yunohost makes it easy to manage domains or reverse proxies. I currently work as SysOps/SysAdmin/DevOps and when I choose to deploy an application, I opt for something I have more control over, but without yunohost I would never have stepped into this career path. I continue to use yunohost on my main server, which is a bastion of stability for me, but I test new apps and host them on a separate server. In Yunohost, on the other hand, I install the Redirect application to conveniently have access to them outside my network.
Never heard of it till now, now I’m going to try it out!
I run Dokploy which is like yunohost but a little bit more advanced.
gkaklas@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Yes, it’s pretty good! I’m a DevOps engineer, and have experience with Ansible, Docker, etc, but I just couldn’t find time to deploy services the best way that I wanted™ for my personal server
So, even though it e.g. doesn’t even use Docker, yunohost really helped me start using the many services I wanted/needed, which otherwise might take e.g. a few hours to a couple of days for each of them to research and configure
So I have one “production” yunohost server, one “testing” yunohost server to test services that I don’t know if I’ll use yet (and I wouldn’t want them to interfere with production e.g. by using too many resources)
and one server without yunohost for mailu, Docker, traefik, etc, which I can use to deploy services the correct way™ as I figure out the services that I really use and find the time to deploy them one-by-one
Even when using yunohost, there are so many things to do after deploying a service (e.g. DNS, configure the server and client software), so it has been really useful to save time when deploying and configuring.
I think it gets you ~80% there, helps democratize the Internet a bit, and make self-hosting accessible to everyone 💚 It’s more important to have many people setting up e.g. Immich or Nextcloud for their family photos, than only a few Linux people being able to learn how to do it perfectly and everyone else to have to resort to using centralized services
WhiteHotaru@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
I think time efficiency and stability are the two traits I am looking for. Looks like yunohost can offer those.