What skinheads are you talking about? The ones before the movement became filled with nazis or the ones after?
I do not agree with their political views, but skinheads make pretty nice punk music
Submitted 2 months ago by abbadon420@lemm.ee to showerthoughts@lemmy.world
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Cano@lemm.ee 2 months ago
wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 2 months ago
The important question.
abbadon420@lemm.ee 2 months ago
I’m not sure. I did not know there was a distinction. I really do not care about the nazi or racist part, but considering the downvotes, that doesn’t matter much. I mostly like the energy, maybe you can call it hate or a general feeling of the unheard. Also the bands that have this raw vocalist, sound pretty cool. (But I’m sure that’s not an exclusively skinhead thing.) But anyways, it’s a powerful emotion to base your music upon.
I’m curious what the distinction is. Maybe you can name some bands? In the palylist I’m currently listening, I’ve heard “B squadron” and “plan of attack”, which sound pretty nice, aesthetically.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 months ago
The distinction is that, originally, skinheads were basically just bald punks. Then the look and scene were co-opted by the neo-nazi movement to a point where “skinhead” became synonymous with “neonazi.”
Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Original skinheads = good kids who generally got on really well with the Jamaican rudeboys. People were generally apolitical but were connected by class (working class) not divided by colour. Eventually created 2-tone music.
Nazi skinheads = Not remotely friends with rudeboys. Probably see them as sub-human. Haven’t created anything new musically (that I’m aware of).
Punk = type of music played by both lovely accepting people and terrible scum too.
NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 2 months ago
“I don’t like Adolf, but he says some pretty great things”
-OP, basically
abbadon420@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Not at all. It’s all about emotion and hate is one of the most powerful emotions. That’s why social media is running so hot these days and I don’t agree with general social media either.
NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 2 months ago
So the hate in Nazi music resonates with you?
SolidShake@lemmy.world 2 months ago
You don’t know the difference between Nazis and punk.
If you called a pink kid a skinhead you’d get your has beat by him. They are the opposite of skinheads.
gimmelemmy@lemmy.world 2 months ago
If it is done by skinheads then it is automatically NOT punk. Just like No Doubt does not make “ska”, but especially, very much, absolutely more so!
abbadon420@lemm.ee 2 months ago
That’s an interesting take. I do agree that “No Doubt” is not ska. But than again, I’ve never thought that it might be ska.
I think “skinhead punk” is a very succinct, very separate subgenre of punk. But punk nonetheless.
I get why you deny it though, because punk is supposed to be the very political opposite of that. In that sense I do agree with you that skinhead punk is not punk at all.
actionjbone@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Congrats, you’re also one of them
abbadon420@lemm.ee 2 months ago
One of what? People who like to step outside of the beaten track every once in a while? You think listening to hateful music makes me hateful? I’m guessing you, re also someone who thinks a mosh pit is a bad thing, don’t you?
HikingVet@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
OP : “I like racist music because of the instrumental in a genre about the message!”
BumpingFuglies@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Any fan (or hater) of punk will tell you:
“Nice punk music” is an oxymoron.
abbadon420@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Nice! I mean… fuck off!
HikingVet@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Nazi skinheads don’t make better music than punks or sharps or the original skinheads (lower class british multi racial sub culture)
abbadon420@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Yeah I get that, but it’s a good gateway drug into actually appreciating punk. You start with “skinhead punk” because they kind of have this reputation that you’re curious about. And suddenly you find that you like punk.
HikingVet@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
No it isn’t. Pop punk is a good gateway. Nazi skinhead punk is nazi propaganda.
DirigibleProtein@aussie.zone 2 months ago
As a punk from the 1970s, I can tell you most definitely that skinheads and punks are different groups and listen to different music.
Can’t find a direct link to Time Magazine - The Tribes of Britain
PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Nazi punk might be my least favorite Nazi genre but I’d be lying if I said I didn’t shake my ass to some ROME or Burzum every now and again
abbadon420@lemm.ee 2 months ago
I’ve heard Burzum, but that’s not nazi punk. There’s not enough hate for things that are not actually the problem, but you’re to dumb to realize. It’s basically just doom-metal.
PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 2 months ago
You missed the message of my comment entirely and I was pretty sympathetic to you.
Nazi punk: not good
Nazi black metal (NSBM): regrettably pretty good
Nazi neofolk: regrettably pretty good
Sanctus@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Nazi punks fuck off
abbadon420@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Lol nice!! That’s the fucking spirit