Any MythTV Users Here?

Submitted ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Cyber@feddit.uk⁩ to ⁨selfhosted@lemmy.world⁩

As a long-term MythTV user, I read all the discussion about Plex vs Jellyfin, but I’m still here… recording Live TV, watching films, listening to “me choonz” all on free, open-source software. What am I missing? Any other MythTV users out there?

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originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
oh wow, not in a long time..well over a decade...almost 2! i gave up on live tv around then

im usin kodi/jellyfin (plex is proprietary) mostly for the 'pseudotv' plugin.. so i can have a cable-like system from my local storage

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- neclimdul@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Right? Obi-Wan: “Now, that’s a name I haven’t heard in a long time. A long time.”
  
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  - Cyber@feddit.uk ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    That’s me… Jedi Advert Avoider
    
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- hendrik@palaver.p3x.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Nice. I think we simultaneously wrote very similar comments. But I don't use my Jellifin to mimick live TV. Either I choose some movie or the next episode of my new favorite TV show, or I just waste my time on YouTube. I also used to watch Netflix, but I think they removed most of the interesting content.
  
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  - originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    i remember when you could get disks from netflix.. 7 at a time! i would turn them around same day. it really helped fill out my movie collection
    
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- chibah@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  pseudotv is great i loved that software on xbmc. now i run dizquetv with plex. pretty similar functionality.
  
  github.com/vexorian/dizquetv
  
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kitnaht@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I used to use MythTV back in the analog TV days. It’s much easier to use when you have proper cable channels. I couldn’t be bothered to pay >$140/mo for Cable TV any longer.

So now I just pay $60 for internet, and pirate everything I wanna watch with Sonarr/Radarr/Jellyfin/Jackett/Qbittorrent and a $2/mo VPN from Windscribe.

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- tburkhol@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  It’s even easier with digital broadcast. I finally had to give up my PCI tuner, because who puts PCI slots on a modern mobo? $25 will get you a USB TV tuner capable of getting all the OTA and cable channels. I used to get, like, 7 analog OTA channels - ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS, and a regional independent - but I get 30 digital. All the majors have added 3-5 channels of SD reruns or other filler. I mean, it’s mostly shit, and the only thing I actually watch is local news, but for a one-time $25 cost, it’s a great supplement to streaming.
  
  My biggest problem with MythTV is it doesn’t interface with streaming, so I use Kodi on the frontend to source from mythtv, netflix, hbo, or whatever.
  
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  - Cyber@feddit.uk ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Yeah, Myth’s built-in internet browser is pretty dire - I have a 2nd virtual desktop to open a browser if I want to watch something via the internet, but I don’t bother with Netflix, etc…
    
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hendrik@palaver.p3x.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Wow, MythTV is still around? I used that like 12 years ago. I've stopped watching live TV since. Except for some of the regional program and news that's part of public broadcasting.

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- Cyber@feddit.uk ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Yep, still alive 🙂
  
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cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I’m confused. Isn’t mythtv just TV tuner software or something? Which would still require a cable subscription? Plex and jellyfin do not operate on the same playing field. Jellyfin is also FOSS FWIW.

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- raef@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  MythTV has movie/TV and music libraries, so it’s not too different than the other two. Also, you can use a tv tuner like TVheadend with jellyfin.
  
  I used MythTV for years and eventually switched to Kodi to get more modern UIs. I eventually separated the server part with jellyfin to get more flexibility, keeping Kodi on little raspberry pi boxes as clients
  
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- possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  You can just watch over the air channels
  
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  - cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Oh right, aren’t those all basically trash though? Like a few news channels and some talk shows?
    
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pHr34kY@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I used MythTV for decades. I really loved the “raw” digital output of the music player. It would casually hop from 44/16/2.0 to 96/24/5.1 between songs and my amp would decode it. I even contributed a small patch to make the visualizer work with 24bit audio.

The live TV hardware accelerated deinterlacing was really good too. TV recording was super reliable.

The TVDb lookup was a tad glitchy. It turns out that it didn’t include the year in the lookup. I wrote a patch that did it (and improved my metadata lookups heaps) but never made a PR.

I jumped to Plex around 2020. Mostly for things like streaming to my phone so I can have my music on the train. I believe Myth was better for HTPC, but Plex isn’t too far off.

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- Cyber@feddit.uk ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Ah, ok, you’re a bit of a contributor… I helped with a couple of patches and loads of wiki edits (that needed much love a few years ago)
  
  TVDb is still hit & miss, but much better than it used to be.
  
  And yeah, Myth’s not ideal for external streaming…
  
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- Mountain_Mike_420@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  There are 2 versions of plex. One is just called plex and you can use your mouse. The other is called plexHTPC and it uses arrow keys and spacebar to select content. It took me a while to figure out that there are 2 different versions out there. The htpc one does ac3 pass through just fine.
  
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  - pHr34kY@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I’m on the new HTPC version installed as a snap. I can see that it’s meant to work with passthrough, but I find that it… doesn’t.
    
    I haven’t tried in a few versions. Maybe I should give it another crack.
    
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ChojinDSL@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Does anyone know if there is a way to use mythtv as a TV backend for jellyfin?

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ChojinDSL@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I used it back in the day when I still had analog Cable TV and a digital capture card. MythTV was a pain in the ass to setup. The UI was horrible and if you were trying to setup satellite, it could get really complicated if you didn’t know what you were doing.

That being said, MythTV is probably hands down the best digital recorder I’ve ever used. Like for LiveTV it sucks, because channel switching takes ages until it’s built a recording buffer. This might be less of an issue on SSDs now, like I said I haven’t used in ages. But MythTV had some of the best features in terms of scheduling recordings, avoiding conflicts and skipping commercials.

Once I started using MythTV, I stopped watching live TV entirely. Since I simply just recorded stuff I was interested in.

I’ve used MythTV, TVheadend and NextPVR. MythTV has the best recording features. TVheadend in combination with Kodi has the fastest channel switching, which is great if you just want to channel hop. NextPVR is decent and IMHO the easiest to setup out of the three. But is lacking in certain areas.

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- Cyber@feddit.uk ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Yeah, good summary - I’m not using the latest version, but LiveTV channel changing still takes a second (on a dual tuner machine), but, like you said, we rarely watch LiveTV now and if we do, we’re not really channel hopping either.
  
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yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Oh, this is exactly what I’ve been looking for

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- Cyber@feddit.uk ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Glad we helped you :)
  
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TheButtonJustSpins@infosec.pub ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Looks like it’s mostly for live TV? I haven’t had cable in a long time, don’t really need to record things.

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deadbeef@lemmy.nz ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I replaced mythtv with tvheadend on the backend and kodi on the frontend like 5 or 6 years ago.

The setup and configuration at the time on mythtv was slanted towards old ( obsolete ) analog tuners and static setup and tvheadend was like a breath of fresh air in comparison where you could point it at a DVB mux or two and it would mostly do what you want without having to fight it.

I’m not sure how much longer I’ll want something that can tune DVB-S2 and DVB-T though. Jellyfin and friends handle everything other than legacy TV better than kodi these days.

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- kalpol@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Jellyfin is working pretty well for TV too, with the Schedules Direct feed. Just doesn’t get the naming right.
  
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MNByChoice@midwest.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Yes! It is great.

Any more I reencode for local streaming to my TV.

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TrumpetX@programming.dev ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I moved over to TabloTV about 8 or 9 years ago. I got tied of fixing stuff when I would update something and Tablo just worked on the Roku without much fuss.

I’m still happy with and love the Tablo, but it’s no better than MythTV was, just easier to maintain.

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- Cyber@feddit.uk ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Not heard of Tablo… I’ll take a look
  
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AbidanYre@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I still have a virtualized back end in the basement and a NUC frontend on the TV, but mostly use Netflix and jellyfin these days.

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- Cyber@feddit.uk ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  How well doea the NUC perform as a Frontend? I have a small TV in a spare room which could benefit from a separate Frontend…
  
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  - AbidanYre@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    It works fine. It’s probably overkill because I had intended to use it for some light gaming at one point but never actually did. It has an i5 and 16G of RAM and has never any issues with playback. I upgraded to it because the Atom/Ion one it replaced had issues with some blu-rays that I had ripped.
    
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possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I use a HDhomerun

You will need to look I to TV guides

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- Cyber@feddit.uk ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I think Myth can record from the homerun boxes?
  
  I’m lucky the OTA scheduling works well enough for me - only issue is that I can only see a few days ahead.
  
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  - possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I use Jellyfin for recording. Right now Jellyfin can not read the json returned by the HDhomerun API
    
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NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Using mythtv for 15 years at least. At the beginning with its own frontend, now with a Kodi frontend on an Androidtv box.

I am reading about jellyfin here frequently, but have not tried it so far. Can it even handle SAT receivers?

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- ikidd@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Jellyfin is basically a storage/streaming server. You still have to get the files, which is where Sonarr/Radarr/QBT come in.
  
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  - NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    So, which one of these handles the SAT receiver card(s)?
    
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  - Cyber@feddit.uk ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Yeah, I was kinda thinking about a combined Myth Backend / *arr box and then see whether Myth Frontend or Jellyfin worked “better” (for my use case)… just need a spare weekend to try it all out.
    
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