Fuck the music industry, but fuck AI made music even more. The goddamn robot is supposed to take my factory job and leave me with the time to write songs not the other way around
Music industry giants allege mass copyright violation by AI firms
Submitted 4 months ago by Gsus4@programming.dev to technology@lemmy.world
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Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 4 months ago
TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 4 months ago
How do you feel about other tech-based tools making an artists life easier, like sequencers, VSTs, DAWs, and the like? I see it as maybe another tool to use.
Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 4 months ago
With all of the tools you described the entire creative process is still done by a human musician. Sequencers have to be programmed. VSTs are just instruments and they DAWs have simply replaced expensive studio equipment so poors like me can produce a decent sounding track.
I don’t want to see generated images or AI coded video games either.
AstralPath@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
None of those tools has ever made a full releasable track for anyone, just like the tape machine never created music out of nowhere.
myslsl@lemmy.world 4 months ago
You’re getting downvoted but you are right. Stuff like this for example is super cool example of exactly the type of thing you are talking baout.
There’s a lot of AI generated visual art that sucks. But that does not imply that in skilled hands an artist can’t use those tools in creative/interesting ways.
stellargmite@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Technicalities probably, but much like computery things in general these tools don’t make all things easier necessarily. If pure making and playing of music is the goal, then just pickup an instrument. Record it with a nice preamp and microphone in an appropriate space. These tools allow many more and different options however. Of course I can approximate an orchestra good enough for low budget projects if not tv shows, without needing to hire an actual orchestra. And apply convolution reverb of the sistene chapel, or my bathroom. No complaints about the massive world of possibilities at our finger tips. But if I could hire a local school orchestra, the recording gear, and have an afternoon on such a project , it would be alot more fun than scrolling for hours for the right picollo flute sample, wrestling with licences (including cost) , upgrade hassles, and other tech headaches of this digital age. Back to my banjo. Saying all that I prefer when the tools mature into instruments and methods in their own right. e.g mpc sampling and performance, ableton live magic , and more. Plus its not all mutually exclusive. Do whats right for the art at the given time.
glasgitarrewelt@feddit.de 4 months ago
Valid question, fuck those downvoters.
Carrolade@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Funniest comment I’ve read in a pretty long time, props.
knotthatone@lemmy.one 4 months ago
The RIAA vs the AI industry… Can they both lose?
n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Grabs popcorn let’s find out
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Let’s hope for an extremely long and expensive legal process where the RIAA gets an initial injunction against OpenAI while the case plays out.
Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Each shit music industry. One of the greediest predatory industries around.
sunzu@kbin.run 4 months ago
Corps battling each other for power while our slave labour feeds them...
A Boring dystopia
NutWrench@lemmy.world 4 months ago
“Let them fight.”
Gsus4@programming.dev 4 months ago
Problem is this is a Cell vs C18 fight. Don’t let Cell win and absorb C18 :/
chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 4 months ago
capitalists x capitalists
bappity@lemmy.world 4 months ago
GOOD
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 months ago
No, BAD.
RIAA is evil. AI is good for us plebs while it’s still legal for us to own and operate our own local open source LLMs away from the corpos, in the same way the internet is a net good because it’s free and open and gives us power to practice communism (information sharing, hacking and open source).
All regulation will be aimed squarely at that, concentrating power in the hands of the few away from the proletariat.
Corpos will pay any fees and fines as a cost of doing business and acquire all licenses and reach private agreements with publishers out of reach for the common man or small business, all the while passing the cost of all this onto the consumer eventually.
IP law does not benefit you and you will never truly benefit from it.
Don’t simp for corpos.
MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Is RIAA wanting full control over the AU tech or do they want AI to be banned from music completely? Their stance will dictate who I support between two massive evils
NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 4 months ago
own and operate our own local open source LLMs away from the corpos
LLM’s LOL but you do understand that you can have only that little wooden cart while they are driving all the Ferraris and Porsches, don’t you?
Womble@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Its honestly sad how many people I see on Lemmy cheering on corporate IP law because GRRM is pissed off at not getting a few million more royalties by being included in a training set.
Gsus4@programming.dev 4 months ago
I was surprised it took them this long. On the other hand, this just means that labels want to own AI songmaking, this is not good for creators or listeners either. Rick Beato was talking about this today m.youtube.com/watch?v=1bZ0OSEViyo&pp=ygUKcmljayBi… (minute 6)
bappity@lemmy.world 4 months ago
oh
0x0@programming.dev 4 months ago
In this day and age an artist can be their own record label.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Yes and no. Promotion is a whole other beast now, not like in the day. But almost everything else - yes! And it’s great. My friend gave me what would have been $100,000 piece of gear in 1985 - because he had two of them.
MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 4 months ago
they gave you AutoTune?
Fedizen@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Sickos: Yes!
RobotToaster@mander.xyz 4 months ago
My opinion will never change on this, I don’t care if they’re suing satan himself.
Fuck the RIAA.
Wxnzxn@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
“If the RIAA sued hell, I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons.”
state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de 4 months ago
Yeah, there are only stealing assholes involved here.
Dkarma@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Good cuz ai doesn’t copy anything.
Glyphord@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Agreed! The best bet here is for both sides to kill each other or sue them both into oblivion.
TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 4 months ago
Obligatory.