Submitted 1 week ago by BrikoX@lemmy.zip to globalnews@lemmy.zip
Just two months ago, Biden said that the invasion of Rafah is a “red line” Israel must not cross.
Archived version: archive.ph/96pmD
Man I fucking hate to have to do this to all the Biden apologists on lemmy who let it get this far, but we told you so.
Thanks. You’ve handed the election to trump.
All you powerless people on the internet; this is your fault.
This is what idiots actually believe.
Amen brother.
All the way through I have been saying "we need to hold Biden's heels to the fire, not be sending the message that his fascist tactics are working."
"BuT tRuMp!!!"
Now Trump wins because liberals are disenfranchised and what's worse, I predict that will only drive the DNC deeper into fascism.
They rigged Bernie out, and doubled down on the fascism then.
This cycle, there isnt even a viable candidate that they are suppressing, and they are tripling down on the fascism.
Biden has already lost, and Progressives are more likely to team up with him than to resist him.
America really is fucked right now...
Yeah I don’t know what we do.
I want Bernie to run third party. I don’t think Biden can win.
i’m going to copy/paste this to the only 2 comments this thread is getting:
if you look at the up/down votes the last half dozen biden/gaza threads on the fediverse, you’ll see that there’s nearly 2:1 votes in favor of biden perpetuation genocide.
the fediverse was started by a tankie and is, arguably, the most left leaning social media platform out there and even there, moderates dominate the conversation.
add to that the fact that the democratic party is successfully using abortion to get votes and rfk jr is a much bigger threat to trump than biden; it’s pretty clear that biden will win not matter what.
i’ll leave this quote from mlk jir because it helps me accept this thing that i cannot change:
I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can’t agree with your methods of direct action;” who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a “more convenient season.”
Shallow understanding from people of goodwill is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.
I think the quote about the “white liberal” more interested in the negative peace of order is incredibly salient. I’ve been thinking very very deeply about this quote over the last several months.
add to that the fact that the democratic party is successfully using abortion to get votes and rfk jr is a much bigger threat to trump than biden; it’s pretty clear that biden will win not matter what.
I appreciate your optimism but I think this is less certain than you make it out to be. I think you need to take these assumptions to the electoral college map and actually game it out. Specifically, without pivoting on Gaza, I argue that Biden has lost Wisconsin, Michigan, and Minnesota. They demonstrated their willingness to step back from Biden, and Biden has only gotten worse since then. He held onto those states by a shoestring in 2020.
Thats 35 electoral votes. So where does Biden make those up on abortion rights? What states does Biden flip into his favor. Florida? (yea fucking right) Texas? (blue as my balls waiting for this state to turn purple).
Like show me on a map where these electoral college votes that Biden has gained are coming from and we can have that conversation. Otherwise, you don’t actually have an argument because the popular vote is irrelevant, and whining about winning the popular vote while losing the electoral college isn’t an argument either.
My read of the electoral college map is that we’re basically locked into the state it was in for 2016 and 2020. I don’t see anything fundamentally different going into 2024. So the question becomes, what states flip from 2020?
i’m going to copy/paste this to the only 2 comments this thread is getting
I don't get why you don't just post it once and then @ everyone you're talking to, instead of spamming it through the comments section and making us have to scroll through it multiple times.
The people who hand this election to Trump will do so at the polling booth.
Bullshit. Don’t blame voters for Biden risking handing the forever keys to the country to the fucking Nazis just to protect a genocide. Some people have actual principles and if one of those principles is to not vote for a guy that arms and funds a genocide, don’t you fucking dare blaming them. This is on Biden and his handlers thinking it was a jolly fine strategy trying to manufacture enough consent for a genocide among Democrats and Independents to win an election. The obvious weak link is that genocide is a bit of a hard sell to non fascists, in case you didn’t realize.
Many democrats and independents will still do their duty and vote for Biden, but many simply can’t or won’t vote for a pro genocide politician even if the alternative is so much worse. Some things simply can’t stand and consequences be damned, you know? Conservatives feel that shit over stuff like trans people needing to use the bathroom and naughty books, but genocide is one of those things that can make even a Democrat put their foot down. I mean, who could have figured the woke brigade was against genocide? Camp Biden surely didn’t.
To summarize, Biden shot a big gaping hole in his own foot and you are blaming the voters for his almost inevitable loss in the upcoming foot race? Is that about right? I can almost see him aiming at the other foot right now, thinking more speed holes will give him an edge.
Dear “journalists”, if your headline contains the word “slams”, I just assume it’s a poorly written article and I don’t read it
In this case, it’s more literal than figurative. Cops did slam people to the ground, both students and elderly professors alike.
Yes but the title claims Biden slammed them.
…I’d love to see him try, honestly.
Slams them with the door until they’re dead
Way to go asshole, you just handed the election to trump.
i’m going to copy/paste this to the only 2 comments this thread is getting:
if you look at the up/down votes the last half dozen biden/gaza threads on the fediverse, you’ll see that there’s nearly 2:1 votes in favor of biden perpetuation genocide.
the fediverse was started by a tankie and is, arguably, the most left leaning social media platform out there and even there, centrists dominate the conversation.
add to that the fact that the democratic party is successfully using abortion to get votes and rfk jr is a much bigger threat to trump than biden; it’s pretty clear that biden will win not matter what.
I keep harping on this point, if Progressives put in the effort of being a persistent voting bloc, democratic politicians would be a lot more scared of the possibility of being primaried than they are of the possibility that progressives yet again will need to be reminded how the math works on them not voting or voting third party out of spite.
This is literally how the far right captured the republican party. I sign my name in Arabic, 30 years ago that would have been an easy guess that I voted republican, along with most Latine and Asian folks. Persistent electoral projection is how the right took the party that marketed itself as the big tent for all traditional values in america and turned it into the Racist Chrisnats we deal with at present. Had the left put in the same effort over the same period of time, Bernie would be considered a party establishment leader.
Yeah it’s pretty disturbing. But I definitely disagree with you that Biden is for sure going to win. Looking at polls and just in general how apathetic people are about these candidates I don’t see how you can think that a Biden second term is a sure thing by any stretch of the imagination.
Final phase, now where have I heard something similar?
That was intentional, I’ll bet.
I’m voting for the wizard
Hildegarde@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Banning young people’s favorite app and then doubling down on the genocide is not the sort of strategy that wins elections.
Uranium3006@kbin.social 1 week ago
If genocide Joe loses it's his fault
MakePorkGreatAgain@lemmy.basedcount.com 1 week ago
seems like he’s been actively trying to lose the election for months
june@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 week ago
I guess the Zionist crowd is more important than most young people, then. What a shame.
rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 1 week ago
So you are ready to vote for his competition?
Hildegarde@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Yes! I have voted third party and intend on continuing.