Never heard of LzLabs before today, but I hope they succeed. Fuck IBM and their proprietary bullshit
IBM sues a Zurich-based startup over 'unlawful' use of mainframe technology
Submitted 6 months ago by ylai@lemmy.ml to technology@lemmy.world
https://sifted.eu/articles/ibm-lawsuit-zurich-startup-lzlabs
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cm0002@lemmy.world 6 months ago
breadsmasher@lemmy.world 6 months ago
“We built our services to lock in users in such a way, that only reverse engineering it is how to break out!”
redfox@infosec.pub 6 months ago
It’s pretty plain to see IBM afraid of loosing vendor lock-in, but running a software solution designed for an open or distributed platform shouldn’t be that big of a threat, right?
All their selling points are the insane hardware performance, redundancy, and tuning.
Isn’t it unlikely you’re going to get that on some virtual or abstracted mainframe platform?
If I was one of the businesses that’s been paying the fortune keeping IBM mainframe alive, I’d stay on it. They measure profits in the billions and saving some money going away from IBM and risking loosing countless dollars per minute seems like a risk…
Oh wait, I forgot, all American Corps are currently (since the 80s-ish), worthless greedy fucks solely focused on short term profit and stock price regardless of long term consequences. Maybe they should save some money on one of the things that’s helps make them billions…I bet that golden goose tastes amazing 😄
Juice@midwest.social 6 months ago
since the 80s
Do you wanna know who sold the time-punch machines for the concentration camps to the Nazis?
Nazi Germany was IBM’s second largest customer after the USA.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Wow…
Cypher@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Losing not loosing.
dugmeup@lemmy.world 6 months ago
What a joke of a lawsuit. IBM wants to lock in its clients for an eternity.
Look at this from the article:
LzLabs’ product helps its clients migrate from IBM computer mainframe technology onto open source alternatives. The US company says that it is “inconceivable” that LzLabs — and its UK subsidiary Winsopia — could have developed that migration software without illegally reverse engineering IBM’s technology.
db2@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Clean room reverse engineering is entirely legal. Fuck IBM, they’re pulling an Oracle.
SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Shit they’re pulling an old school IBM eh?
bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Maybe I’m the US, but is it legal in the UK? Also too, if the matter is the fact that they didn’t physically reverse engineer the subsidiarity’s mainframe, and in fact were able to piece together software solutions to drop in, how in the world is that a violation of anything?
palordrolap@kbin.social 6 months ago
These IBM folks need to have a chat with whatever department recently agreed to open-source MS-DOS 4.00 (IBM had joint control with Microsoft), because they know full-well that third-party copyright-free largely MS-DOS compatible products exist and have existed for quite some time now.
This is the same deal but with their bigger iron.
Now it's true that there were a few DOS clones that somehow fell afoul of copyright that were killed off pretty quick, but the only other way to get DOS-compatibility is by... reverse engineering.
And if they sued about that, they must have lost because alternative DOS clones continue to exist.
The only caveat I can see here is that the successful clones are open-source and free of cost.
If this company are charging anything at all, that could be the angle of attack. It might be the only angle of attack.
But I'm not a lawyer and have probably missed something blindingly obvious. Or devious.