Comment on European iPhones are more fun now

• FireWire400@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  AFAIK, the EU defines “user replaceable” as literally that; you open a hatch, pull the battery out and stick a new one in.

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  • nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Fuck, let’s hope they at least allow screws. Click-in latches are prone to breaking and wearing out

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    • stoy@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Meh, most iPhones live in a case, it’ll be fine

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    • Deceptichum@quokk.au ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      How many often are you planning on replacing the battery in your phone that it would wear out?

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      • Sentient_Modem@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The ware would most likely come from someone that has a spare battery that is ready to go. Think of your phone burning 80% of the juice and you’re about to hop on a flight that you’re barely going to make (no time to charge). Slap that stand by battery in and off you go. That’s what I did with my old Nokia or blackberry back in the day. Oh and for my HTC aria.

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      • aard@kyu.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        With my N900 I used to travel with 6 to 10 charged batteries to have a few days of runtime. Things got better now with powerbanks - but for something like hiking just carrying a few spares would still be smaller and lighter.

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      • oldfart@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Every time I’m on a longer trip and want to replace a battery with a charged one? Every time I want to be offline but carry a phone for emergencies?

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      • chaosCruiser@futurology.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        At the moment replacing the battery is pretty much out of the question, so I prefer to optimize my charging patterns so I never ever have to get the battery replaced. However, if replacing it was a realistic possibility I might abuse the battery much more. I might even leave my devices plugged in overnight.

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    • smokinliver@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I have a Phone with a click-in latch and nothing wore our over the last 5 years

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    • FireWire400@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They should do, although I can’t really imagine manufacturers incorporating plastic tabs into their sleek glass-metal sandwiches…

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    • Walican132@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah I don’t miss dripping a HTC phone and watching the pieces scatter.

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  • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Unfortunately, they do not define it that way.

    And there are exceptions based on capacity and how long you guarantee the battery capacity will be good for. IIRC, if it still has 70% capacity by 3 years time, it doesn’t have to be replaceable at all.

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    • FireWire400@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Can you really guarantee that? I mean, it’s pretty much dependent on individual usage.

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      • sugartits@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Sure you can. Car manufacturers do it today.

        You will have to define “3 years” as well. It can’t be a blanket 3 calendar year thing, it would have to be X number of cycles which the average user would realistically hit with 3 years of usage. Not someone glued to their phone playing games all day that need to charge three times a day.

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    • EddoWagt@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And there are exceptions based on capacity and how long you guarantee the battery capacity will be good for. IIRC, if it still has 70% capacity by 3 years time, it doesn’t have to be replaceable at all.

      I do not remember reading that, the only exception I remember is for devices that are intended to be used under water, which phones are definitely not

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  • Fishytricks@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Sounds really good to me!

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    • Guadin@k.fe.derate.me ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They'll make the replacement so expensive nobody will do it. And then there will be a new rule mandating it needs to be a reasonable price. Apple will say it's reasomable because it factors in environmental costs, and so the dance continues.

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  • exu@feditown.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Pretty sure the draft allowed “common tools” or specialised tools if they came in box.

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