I just went full AMD when I realised their Open Source effort to market share ratio is way ahead of Intel.
doingthestuff@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Ryzen changes their sockets less often too. I went from a 2600 to a 3600 to a 5700x with the same motherboard. Unless Intel really steps up their game I don’t see any reason to switch back.
ulterno@lemmy.kde.social 3 months ago
dan@upvote.au 3 months ago
I bought a Framework 16 laptop partially because they officially support Linux and there’s AMD employees on their forum tracking and fixing bugs.
AMD have come a long way since the fglrx days (their old buggy proprietary graphics driver). They’ve really embraced Linux, and an AMD CPU + AMD GPU would be my first choice for a Linux system.
ulterno@lemmy.kde.social 3 months ago
I’m just waiting for it to be available here.
Probably going to be a while, considering most people won’t pay the extra price for it, with much cheaper brands being available.
Badeendje@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Excellent point!
I have been rocking and since the first Aylin series, simply because I think Intel deserves and requires a competitor. The fact that the new (and last few) amd units are good value for money helps a lot!
kopasz7@lemmy.world 3 months ago
AMD for platform, Intel for NIC (and optane SSD)
Best combo IMO.
MHLoppy@fedia.io 3 months ago
Intel fumbled hard with some of their recent NICs including the I225-V ([1][2], which took them multiple hardware revisions in addition to software updates to fix.
AMD also had to be dragged kicking and screaming to support earlier motherboard buyers to upgrade to Ryzen 5000 chips,[3] and basically lied to buyers about support for sTRX4, requiring an upgrade from the earlier TR4 to support third-gen Threadripper but at least committing to "long-term" longevity in return[4][5]. They then turned around and released no new CPUs for the platform[6], leaving people stranded on the platform despite the earlier promises.
I know it's appealing to blindly trust one company's products (or specific lineup of products) because it simplifies buying decisions, but no company or person is infallible (and companies in particular are generally going to profit-max even at your expense). Blindly trusting one unfortunately does not reliably lead to good outcomes for end-users.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
Yes, never buy a product based on the company making it, buy based on reviews. I picked up the Ryzen 1700 because it had really good price to performance, and while I was frustrated when they tried to prevent my X370 from upgrading, my vendor (ASRock) was one of the first to support it when AMD relented.
So all things being equal, ASRock and AMD is my preference, but I’m not loyal to either (my wife has a Gigabyte board due to cost and features, and my old NAS used Gigabyte as well). Just like in stocks, past performance is no guarantee of future results, but it is a useful indicator when everything else is equal.
kopasz7@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I only used ax200 and it worked much better than the integrated realtek solution using the same antennas. Driver support was the main difference, I believe.
deltapi@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I used to think so too, but I’ve got an Intel box where I have to turn hardware offload off in order to not have networking ‘crashes’ (complete with kernel dump data) that take out my networking for 5-15sec. Chip is i218-LM r05.
I’ve never had an issue with my i210 and x550 chips, but this 218 is super frustrating.
blackwateropeth@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I had to put my Intel NIC in a 1gb duplex due to it crashing at anything higher :)
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
IDK, I’m having a lot of trouble with my Intel Wi-Fi NIC: 3168NGW. I’m getting like 16mbps on Linux, when I have an AC network. My USB dongle gets full speed though, so it works, but the PCI card just sucks.
It seems it’s downgrading to A/B speeds instead of AC, which is weird. This is a new motherboard, and it seems I’m not alone. It apparently works fine, and there seems to be drivers available that fix it, but they’re not part of the standard driver.
CaptKoala@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
I’m waiting till I see a good price on a 5900x/5950x for the rig I recently built with 5800x, the 5800x rips though I will keep it and do another build with it.
doingthestuff@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Sounds like a nice build, what GPU do you have with it? I’m running an RTX 4070ti. People seemed mad at it when it released but I got mine $15 under MSRP on the day it released (plus tax exempt because it’s my main video editing PC for my nonprofit).
A couple years later I’m still loving it for 1440p 144fps gaming, I run most games on ultra. It seems a good match for the 5800x, sometimes I bottleneck on GPU, sometimes CPU but most of the time neither.
CaptKoala@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
6700XT dual, it stays cool, runs 1440p ultra and older 4k and I got it for 507AUD 6-7months ago.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 3 months ago
I’ve got a 5000 series CPU running happily on a first gen Ryzen board. Started with a 1600 and now I have a 5600G. Hybrid graphics setup and all. First gen Ryzen was junk compared to my current CPU, it’s kinda crazy.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
I went from 1700 to 5600 on the same motherboard, and I can still upgrade to an X3D chip if I want to. That’s like 6 years of CPUs on one motherboard.
And the new socket seems to offer something similar.
Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
if Bartlett Lake rumor ends up being true, ironically LGA 1700 had a much longer lifespan than intel would typically have (it would introduce a 4th series to LGA 1700), which would technically put it in a similarish boat to AM5 generation wise in count. (Zen, Zen+, Zen 2, Zen 3 vs Alder lake, Raptor Lake, Raptor Lake+, Bartlett Lake)
the only problem for intell of course is the middle generations top end is basically now unusable
EtherWhack@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Wasn’t that before they switched to LGA though?
elgordino@fedia.io 3 months ago
They’ve committed to support AM5 (the LGA socket launched 2022) through at least 2027.
helenslunch@feddit.nl 3 months ago
Wasn’t what? They still sell AM4 chips to this day.
ikidd@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Intel’s played the socket game for 30 years now, they aren’t stopping now. It’s a bone they throw to the motherboard manufacturers to ensure they stay the main business focus for them.
blandfordforever@lemm.ee 3 months ago
I’m still running a 3700x and had been thinking about upgrading. Is the 5800x the best choice for am4?
dnmr@lemmy.world 3 months ago
5800X3D is still a gaming beast, and 5950X is best in slot for productivity
Valmond@lemmy.world 3 months ago
No, or very few, locks in too. Like overclock or have virtualization.