Most of this country is centrist, so no unfortunately sanders would have lost to trump.
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Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
I will keep repeating this, Biden will be the reason Trump gets reelected. If he loves his country he needs to leave right fucking now. Democrats like him and Clinton are addicted to power. Bernie Sanders could have beaten Trump in both election but the democrats circles of power made sure to get the candidate they wanted. Old fool.
SupraMario@lemmy.world 4 months ago
mortemtyrannis@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
lol at thinking Americans are mostly centrists…
acetanilide@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Most Americans I know think they’re centrists, even if they support either major party… I’m an American so I know a few Americans lol
SupraMario@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Lol at thinking Americans lean hard left or right
mberger@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Can you guys just put obama back in? I would unironically say thanks. It would be poetic.
the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Yeah there’s still a few doctors without borders hospitals he hasn’t bombed yet.
ThisIsAManWhoKnowsHowToGling@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 months ago
No, there’s an amendment in our consimtituion that says a president can only be in office for two terms total. The only president who evaded this was FDR and he’s still villainized to this day.
Actually. I’m pretty sure hes the reason that amendment got passed.
absentbird@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Before FDR it was just a tradition, started by George Washington. Personally I think FDR deserves a pass, he got us out of the great depression and through WW2, it would have been hard to have a leadership change in the midst of that turmoil.
p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world 4 months ago
No. Trust me, this would be amazing but he cannot legally run again :(
AA5B@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Maybe you’re right but too many of us think the opposite. I would much rather a younger more progressive candidate but Joe Biden has a track record of beating Trump. Biden has done a lot of good things in his first term that I’d want to continue. Even where he hasn’t gone nearly far enough or balanced bad with good, it may be necessary to appeal to the undecideds in the middle. Biden is the only one who can overcome the Trump personality cult
KinglyWeevil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 months ago
A track record of beating trump?
Something about the statistical validity of a sample size of one.
Pandantic@midwest.social 4 months ago
Montagge@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
Bernie ain’t winning shit at a national level
bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 4 months ago
At this point, I’m convinced the Democrats are purposely throwing the election.
ricecake@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
People keep saying Bernie could have won, but he didn’t beat Clinton.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Sanders and Clinton didn’t play on a level field.
ricecake@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Like what? Did she get votes for him thrown out?
People have been saying for years that she had an advantage and so it wasn’t fair, but those advantages seem to ignore that more people voted for her.
He was an independent running as a Democrat, and then claiming it’s unfair when the Democratic party was more aligned with the person who had always been a Democrat.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 4 months ago
those advantages seem to ignore that more people voted for her.
How can that be ignored it is the conclusion of the argument. Those advantages meant more people voted for her.
He was an independent running as a Democrat,
Listen dear, all politicians are independents running as Democrats/Republicans.
claiming it’s unfair when the Democratic party was more aligned with the person who had always been a Democrat.
The whole point of a primary is to determine who the democratic party is more aligned with. It is unfair to determine that in advance.
rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
It’s the usual catch - the leader of the losing side doesn’t get the post, but keeps power of his faction.
While if that leader is no longer a leader, their personal power would be less even if the faction wins.
Western Roman Empire had a similar story with Stilicho’s conviction and execution. The empire loses, but those who ate him get some power.
rsuri@lemmy.world 4 months ago
How about we pick someone who vaguely approaches the average age of an American adult. There’s a ton - Buttigieg, AOC, I dunno even Kamala. Literally anybody under the age of 70. Why is that so hard to do?
justaderp@lemmy.world 4 months ago
You keep repeating it because a false dichotomy, that you must choose between a D or R, prevents you from accepting that the lesser evil is, in fact, evil. So, you’re stuck on stupid and not asking questions. This should help:
The Democrats already, quite predictably, ignored the outcome of their primary to nominate Clinton. They’re not going to do a fucking thing that doesn’t make a corporate donor money. All of Sanders proposals took from corporations to provide for humans. He never stood a chance of being nominated as a Democrat and he damned well knew it. If we give him the benefit of the doubt then his goal was education. If not, he rallied for Democrats to avoid the rise of a Labor Party during a critical time in history.
psycho_driver@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Sanders wouldn’t stand a chance. Too many moderate Democrats would be terrified of the scary socialist madman.
SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
“The scary socialist madman” accompanied by the Democratic Party apparatus? A presidential candidate Sanders along with a moderate liberal VP would have gotten both the traditional Democratic vote (as long as the party collaborated with him, rather than giving him the Corbyn treatment, which I don’t trust liberals not to do) and a considerable chunk of the electorate who doesn’t feel represented by either party. The day you guys understand that you don’t have to fight the Republicans in traditional terms, but rather, to change the coordinates of the fight, you’ll force Republicans to choose between evolving or getting buried. But the real problem by this point is whether it is too late.