I can’t get over just how much better Remake is compared to the original, so you do you, I guess. I was incredibly pleasantly surprised to see the ways they’re engaging with telling a different story and taking the name “remake” very literally. I was seriously concerned they were just going to sell the original story again in three seperate parts as full-price titles.
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Maybe they can stop changing the story of beloved remakes. That might help too. I didn’t buy rebirth, and I won’t buy it unless it’s used. The only way I can voice my disapproval of what they’ve done with the ff7 remake and the bait and switch they did with part 1 is to not give them my money.
Glide@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 1 month ago
That’s why it’s called an opinion. I think the story pacing is garbage compared to the original. Introducing Sephiroth into the beginning of the game made zero sense, and then fighting him as one of the bosses really took away from the mystery of what made the original reveal of him as the real villain all that much better.
And the whispers were an absolute stupid choice to put into the game.
Glide@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
The endgame Sephiroth fight was definitely forced. It reeked of “well, he’s been the secret antagonist all game, so we can’t just disclude him from the finale” kind of thinking.
I liked the more persistent villain lurking in Cloud’s broken mind, but they shouldn’t have felt the need to try and put a pseudo capstone on that story thread.
Katana314@lemmy.world 1 month ago
My issue is less around changing the story, more around incompleteness.
They’re making the turnout of certain events hazy and mysterious to allow for multiple future turnouts, and let them keep merchandising certain characters. And, they’re letting the conclusion keep going for multiple games.
It’s more of a monetary strategy than a storytelling one. Notably, FFXIV sells each of its expansions, but each one has an ending that feels like a victory and a satisfying conclusion to a story even when it sets new things up.
Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
I’ve played FFVII remake and I’ve played 45 hours of rebirth and I’m enjoying it so far.
Maybe less than the original but I guess I’ve changed in 25 years and I want more mature and less japanese dialogues.
Stovetop@lemmy.world 1 month ago
For what it’s worth, Rebirth is an amazing game that I would honestly consider to be the gold star of anyone making a AAA experience today. If the goal is truly quality, I don’t think it’s feasible to try to make every game better than Rebirth given the breadth of content in it and its overall production quality.
Really what this announcement boils down to is that they won’t be making games like Harvestella, Valkyrie Elysium, Diofield Chronicle, and Foamstars. And maybe they’ll also be a bit more mindful of the budgets of their AAA games like Rebirth instead of taking a “spared no expense” mindset, which could come at the cost of quality, but I hope that’s not the case.
Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
Maybe they can just stop doing re.akes and actually be original again…
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 1 month ago
That’s what ff16 was. It’s a great game in my opinion, the story is at least.
Don_alForno@feddit.de 1 month ago
FF16 to me is paper thin in every regard. I would rank it last among all the FF games I’ve played. The combat is especially bad. You can basically button mash your way through all of it. Dodge a lot, that’s it.
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Can’t please everyone. Different strokes for different folks.
nul9o9@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I haven’t played the remake, but I’ve seen scene snippets on youtube.
The conversations always seemed awkward, and the audio mixing was awful.
Vespair@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Fr. Calling FF7R a “remake” of FF7 with its significant story changes and shift from perfect turn-based combat to the most mind-numbing half-measure “action RPG” combat is like saying you’re going to remake Tetris but now it’s a first-person shooter
Glide@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
Calling the new game’s combat “mind-numbing” compared to a random encounter turn-based system is both peak irony and peak rose-tinted glasses.
Vespair@lemm.ee 1 month ago
I can only speak to my experience. I love the depth of FF7’s turn-based strategic combat, meanwhile I literally haven’t finish the first FF7R entry yet because I keep literally falling asleep during combat. I’m not being hyperbolic, I’m not being facetious, I literally have fallen asleep dozens of times during combat trying to finish that damn game.
If the combat speaks to you and you enjoy it, that’s awesome and I’m glad it can deliver to you what you need. But for me, I think it’s even worse than the combat in Tales of Berseria and I hate the combat in the Tales of series.
I love action games and I love RPGs, I just personally rarely find half-measure crossover gameplay styles satisfying.
Glide@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
That’s so fascinating, tbh. I mean, different strokes, so I can’t judge, but it’s the impressively deep strategy they’ve baked into Remake’s combat that I am particularly impressed by. That said, it makes sense though that if you dislike Tales combat, you’d dislike Remake’s combat. They’re not the same persay, but they’re cut from the same cloth imo.
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I was fine with the change from turn based combat. I fully expected that even with them trying to hook in newer fans of the series with modern mechanics.
But there really was no reason to change the story. It was obvious they did it as a business decision when they turned the first 5 hours of the game into 40 hours of fluff.
I wasn’t even upset with the story additions for the extra character. It was kinda nice even to get some background on the characters before we leave Midgar without them.
It’s the fundamental changes to the story that really bothered me, that they made for really no reason.
Vespair@lemm.ee 1 month ago
I agree with all of that. My personal biggest issue is the combat, but it isn’t the only issue and it isn’t the biggest issue with the idea of the game as a concept.
But unfortunately SqEnix recognized FF7 for the cash cow that it is, and seem fully-devoted to milking it for every last drop it can offer