I think thays a good compromise. if you then have an issie with a particular user you can block them individually.
Unfortunately blocking an instance only blocks posts on that instance, not users from it, which is the main issue people have with those instances.
Hanrahan@lemmy.world 6 months ago
state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months ago
I’m actually mostly fine with blocking instances myself. Users from troll instances rarely annoy me.
clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
I use Connect for Android, and when I block an instance it blocks the users too. Their comments are still here, but sort of spoiler tagged.
fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months ago
Yes but surely you can understand that even votes from these poorly moderated instances are distorting the discourse elsewhere in the lemmyverse.
Just because you can’t see it does not mean the problem is solved.
matcha_addict@lemy.lol 6 months ago
So we wanna defederate to steer votes in a certain way? Worrying so much about votes is such redditor behavior.
fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months ago
I would challenge you to think about how votes can influence the culture of a community.
You’re correct in that worrying about how many upvotes you can accumulate is very reddit.
I’m not really talking about karma accumulation, but rather the way votes can influence visibility of comments. When done methodically, this promotes some ideas over others, and presents an illusion that “everyone else thinks so”. This is a very, very powerful way to influence a community.
We are hard wired to absorb the opinions of those around us. Sure you can disagree with other group members, but even that is an acknowledgement that the alternative perspective you’re disagreeing with is a popular one.
You could absolutely influence people’s opinions on lemmy just with a hacked instance that manipulated votes on comments by just a few dozen points.
Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Yeah it’s a very common misconception, I find it weird that people are still having it though when 0.19 is widely available.
Maybe they’re just saying it as a way to be dismissive of the issue, this kind of stuff happens often when people report or call to attention malicious instances or malicious users.
fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months ago
Honestly I think it’s just people that haven’t thought very deeply about the nature of communities they’re supporting.
Snowpix@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
nor how letting a large, poorly moderated instance run wild can negatively affect discourse on the entire platform. Before Hexbear was defed’d on lemmy.ca, Lemmy was damn near unusable on many threads because of the spam and trolling. Blocking them doesn’t stop them from bothering those who haven’t and it affects the platform as a whole.
Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Blocking is not a real solution, it is putting a blanket over the problem and pretending it went away. People who suggest you do that are suggesting you enable bad faith actors by ignoring their behavior, as opposed to reporting it and/or making others aware so they can report it. We all need to work better to make the platform and spaces on it better, if no one works at it, nothing gets better.