Comment on Star Wars: Battlefront Classic Collection used modder's work without credit

• Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You’re conflating two different things.

  There’s modders who whine about working for free. And yes, modding is a choice.

  Where in this incident is stolen work.

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  • Son_of_dad@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s not work

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    • ringwraithfish@startrek.website ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If you make something and give it away for free, that’s fine.

      If you make something and I sell it to the masses for a profit without your permission that’s theft.

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    • fartsparkles@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s not about pay the modders so much as if the developer of the game took your mod, put it in the game proper, claimed it was their work, and charged people for it.

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    • QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Can you link your mod files so I can sell them without your knowledge or consent please? Seeing as you have no problem with it…

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      • Son_of_dad@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yeah they’re up on the games site for free

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    • catloaf@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/…/work

      I found several definitions where this meets the definition of “work”, but I’m interested to hear your argument about how “time and effort spent doing a task” is not work.

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      • Son_of_dad@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Nobody hired you to mod someone else’s art. It’s a hobby. I can’t put brush to someone else’s painting and demand payment

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• skulblaka@startrek.website ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Hey I made some fan art of a marvel character, should marvel pay me?

  When they use that fan art in the next official marvel movie, yes absolutely they should.

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  • Son_of_dad@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    But it’s their character, you didn’t ask permission to make the art out of a copyright, why should they pay you?

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    • Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s their character, but it’s your work.

      They cant just steal your work for their own monetary gain, just the same as you cant steal their character for your own monetary gain.

      Both sides have contributed something here, but one side is profiting off the other through theft.

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      • SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        But the rub is, under fair use you can’t profit from it thought, so as soon as you accept payment, now they can sue you.

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    • BlemboTheThird@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      They’re still taking something they didn’t make and selling it as though they did. I have every right to write and film a Batman movie, spend as much time I want making it professional, and then show it to people, as long as I don’t charge them for it. That doesn’t give Fox or whoever the right to take my movie and charge for it instead. Even if I did break the law by making people pay for it, the actual owners would only be entitled to that money, not to go make mroe money off of it themselves. It’s still my work even if it uses concepts invented by someone else.

      There’s a reason every franchise under the sun has mountains of fanart and fanfic without the companies that own them trying to take control of it: it’s blatantly illegal.

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• Buttons@programming.dev ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Their art, their copyright.

  They don’t expect to be paid, but they do expect that their copyright not be violated.

  They might expect pay in exchange for granting a license to use their copyright art.

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• Guntrigger@feddit.ch ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Well yeah, if Marvel released their next movie and it was literally the fan art.

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• CTDummy@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  That isn’t what a DMCA is for. Someone being compensated for the work they’ve done is unrelated to suing a company for using your art/code/work without permission or reference. Weirdly aggressive to modders though.

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