Comment on YSK: it's not just Tesla, 1/3 of cars in built in the last ten years have passenger/rear windows that are almost impossible to break in an emergency.

Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• books@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  My algo shows me nonstop car break ins in the Bay area ( for some reason or another) and they have gloves and it’s amazing how quick they shatter.

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  • Ullallulloo@civilloquy.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Because they have special ceramic tools. Windows will always be incredibly easy for thieves to break with no effort, but they’re incredibly hard for people without specialized burglary tools to break.

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    • magnusrufus@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Specialized tools oversells it. A chipped sparkplug will work.

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      • Ullallulloo@civilloquy.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yeah, they’re nothing fancy, but that’s sole purpose. People aren’t carrying around spark plugs unless they’re car thieves.

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    • Malfeasant@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’d just like to point out that the same is true of your house. Your average deadbolt and doorknob can be defeated by a cordless drill in less than 30 seconds and with very little noise. Don’t ask me how I know :D

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    • sleepmode@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’ve seen videos of them shattering when a coffee mug or spark plug hits them. Sometimes it takes a couple tries.

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      • deranger@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Ninja rocks, smash up a spark plug and the ceramic will annihilate car windows

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• Fondots@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I don’t know how common they actually are, but I see car window breaker & seatbelt cutter gizmos being sold all over the place. I know I keep one in my car where I can easily get to it, though my car emergency kit is probably better stocked than most people’s, and most first responders also have them in their kit.

  Also an automatic center punch will usually do the trick as well, it’s a fairly common tool, though in an emergency it may not be practical to go rooting through your toolbox to find one.

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• Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  pretty insane that cars don’t just come with the tool already in a special holder at the bottom of the door “pockets”

  like it would cost them dollars to do so, no one will notice if you just bake that into the price of the car and i do believe it’s generally considered a good idea to keep your customers alive so they can buy another car.

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  • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It seems that you don’t know the lengths auto makers will go to save litteral cents on a model line. Adding dollars is absolutely not something done lightly.

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    • arin@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Doesn’t cost dollars, literally cents. A tiny hard rock super glued to the key fob should be enough to shatter the tempered glass

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      • FilterItOut@thelemmy.club ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yes, but remember that you’re dealing with MBAs who make it their sole purpose to save pennies. Pennies saved on a few million cars equals more than their salary, which means they keep their job. So fuck a few people dying.

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  • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They’d go the way of the cheap little tire change kit, if the car even has a spare. Nobody would remember where it is, and it’s probably buried under whatever junk is stuffed in the pocket.

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    • Passerby6497@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It pisses me off to no end that 2 of the 3 cars I’ve owned have not had a spare, but that shitty flat repair kit. Thankfully, the one time I needed a spare I had one, as the flat repair kit would have been worthless the day I clipped a curb on a turn and completely blew out my tire.

      Fucking cheap asses making life harder for people…

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      • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yep. The shrinkflation of cars. Cutting out extras like spares to save a buck. Yeah it’s weight that affects economy, but I don’t want to calculate the weight of a 40lb spare on gas consumption vs the cost of the tire or a tow service. FWIW the do make these little collapsible/inflatable spares that can fit in small spaces, but I’d be wary of them with some AWD cars. Can really F up the limited slip allowed in some of the systems.

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      • Tinidril@midwest.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Most consumers have no need for a spare. The vast majority of drivers have cell phones and never drive anywhere more than 15 minutes from a tow truck or other driver’s assistance. Most people I know wouldn’t use the spare to fix a flat even if they had one.

        It’s also not just about the cost of the tire. It takes up space, and decreases fuel efficiency over the entire life of the vehicle.

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• theyoyomaster@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I have one on my pocket knife that goes with me almost everywhere.

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