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foggy@lemmy.world 8 months agoWe need consumer protections here, though.
Like 10 year money back guarantee or something. If the device becomes unusable due to actions outside of the device owners control, those in control should be obligated to reimburse.
Not doing so opens the doors to racketeering.
I don’t think we need to set a global minimum date, but the manufacturer should have to put a date on the box. If they don’t support the device up to that date (including security updates and maintaining any required cloud services) then the consumer gets a full refund with possibly additional damages.
I think of it like the digital version of a nutrition facts table.
Good idea. If we do this and also add some sort of positive label on devices that work locally and are interoperable it might start a positive feedback loop: More people become aware of the issue or simply want the device with the better label when choosing in a store, leading to more manufacturers producing more devices that aren’t cloud-dependent.
Yeah. For sure. If your device doesn’t depend on a cloud service you can put that on your label and it is basically a gold star.
Although even local devices should get security updates. The radios and the firmware speaking the ZigBee protocol can have vulnerabilities.
I vote for forced open sourcing of the server side components and communication protocols. That way people can create custom firmware or build support into generic NVRs
Most customers would not be able to take advantage of this
You don’t need every consumer to roll their own. If they’re obligated to provide server code, or an API, or whatever, stuff that sells at scale can be integrated into community projects. If you buy something obscure you might have issues, but you have options if you buy something mainstream and get the rug pulled.
Right, but what I’m saying is how many people do you think will be able to track down the new open-source project and connect it to their hardware?
Ten years really isn’t that long.
ogmios@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
That’s the idea.
foggy@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I mean I haven’t seen it yet but for a simple example, imagine a Netflix competitor that says you just buy the device for $10,000. One time purchase. Free ad-free tv forever.
Let’s say they get enough subscribers to profit by year 3.
Okay. Rug pull. Chapter 11. Sorry bye, thanks for all the fish.
cerement@slrpnk.net 8 months ago
or just install a rootkit on users’ computers …
Sanctus@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Holy shit that just gets worse as you read it. These companies have always acted with impunity, and always will.
variants@possumpat.io 8 months ago
Wow I forgot about switchfoot