The Luddites of Linux are one’s desperately trying to convince people that Xorg is perfectly flawless and that Wayland is vaporware.
Comment on Microsoft in their infinite wisdom has replaced the Hide Desktop icon with Copilot.
FaceDeer@kbin.social 8 months ago
I must admit, "Linux becomes the refuge of luddites" was never on any bingo card I could have conceived of for 202X.
Rustmilian@lemmy.world 8 months ago
eskimofry@lemmy.world 8 months ago
A luddite should ideally not involve in Display Server wars
rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
Why would people you call luddites even care about your opinion really?
Come back with your Wayland ad when there’s something like CWM or FVWM for it.
It’s simply functionally inferior now. Calling people luddites won’t change that.
Rustmilian@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Come back with your Wayland ad when there’s something like CWM or FVWM for it.
Hyperland, Vivarium, DWL, Velox, etc.
fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Just fyi this isn’t the Linux community. It’s just “technology”.
Granted on lemmy it’s basically just one big Linux community.
rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
Literally, YOU right now.
I’m improving the community by answering demonstrably stupid opinions. So I don’t care about you in particular.
Sway, Hyperland, Vivarium, DWL, Velox, etc.
Wrong.
Xorg HDR when? How many decades and still don’t have HDR? LMAO.
I don’t use HDR and I don’t care. Just like you don’t care about what I use.
its actually maintainable and expandable.
Yes, I’m sure somewhere 10 years after I’ll use it after it’s been finally expanded to something usable.
I’m done waiting for Xorg to improve and implement features that simply will never be.
Too bad
mriormro@lemmy.world 8 months ago
You people are fucking crazy and will literally find anything to fight about. Normal users don’t care about this sort of shit and it’s the thing that turns people completely off when they inevitably run into a problem with Linux.
Rustmilian@lemmy.world 8 months ago
inevitably run into a problem with Linux
This has nothing to do with any of kind of Linux problems.
It’s, just Luddies crying because Linux is moving on from outdated flawed software.
Same shit happens with windows, my guy. “WHAAAAAAAA MY WINDOWS XP WHAAAAAA” \If someone is have a Linux issue, they just need to ask. Literally just ask me, or the vast major of other users.
Kyatto@leminal.space 8 months ago
yeah I’ve seen the windows support forums, every official response either misses the point of the question or the answer is straight up wrong.
Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Yeah, I don’t know why they devolve back to tribalism. I just installed the thing and the programs I had to use and just…kept using it since I didn’t want to pirate windows xd. No need to shout to others what’s my favorite fake non Unix distro or anything.
Rustmilian@lemmy.world 8 months ago
This is no tribalism.
This is people crying because Windows moved from 95 to 98.
aeronmelon@lemmy.world 8 months ago
If Linux Luddites could TELNET into Lemmy, they would be very angry with you!
tsonfeir@lemm.ee 8 months ago
It would mean corporate software support. And while you might still choose FOSS, it means money pouring into Linux—which is always a good thing.
RobotToaster@mander.xyz 8 months ago
“And the lord said unto John, come forth and install gentoo.”
radamant@lemmy.world 8 months ago
What do you mean? Vocal parts of Linux community is about 80% luddites
noodlejetski@lemm.ee 8 months ago
friendly reminder that theconversation.com/im-a-luddite-you-should-be-on…
FaceDeer@kbin.social 8 months ago
That article attempts to paint Luddism in a positive light and then tries to redefine the term to mean something very for "neo-Luddites" anyway. I don't find it particularly compelling or well reasoned.
ekky@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
Huh? Isn’t this about Microsoft changing out a button with a well established use, in order to take advantage of muscle memory and the unobservant?
Don’t think it’s much to do with people opposing technological advancement, but rather with opposing another company wanting to making a fool of them.
Rustmilian@lemmy.world 8 months ago
More over being a luddite on Linux is like a fish trying to breathe in a public swimming pool; it works until the chlorine poisoning sets in.
Linux adopts new technology constantly.
Hubi@feddit.de 8 months ago
The difference is that Linux generally adopts new technology because it enhances the user experience in some way, and not because it maximizes ad revenue and telemetry.
Rustmilian@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Very true.
BarrierWithAshes@kbin.social 8 months ago
Ehn, one can survive pretty long with a stable distro.
Rustmilian@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Yes, but eventually that LTS goes EOL and you’ll have to from that abandonware.
FaceDeer@kbin.social 8 months ago
This is just another gripe about how Microsoft is putting AI into everything. If it's really just about the position of a button (which apparently can be changed in the settings if you still want it there) it's even more petty.
StarPupil@ttrpg.network 8 months ago
I work in IT, and every time I do an install (sometimes new computers, sometimes not) for someone I see Microsoft’s little News widget they put on the Taskbar, the one that pops up a huge window if you mouse over it. Every time I see that, I ask the person if they ever use it, and they always say no. Then I ask them if they want it gone, and they always say yes, usually with some kind of relief. It’s a matter of two clicks to do it, easier than going into the settings menu like your screenshot, but every computer I haven’t been on previously has it. Now, I’d wonder why Microsoft would put something on the Taskbar that is, in my experience, universally disliked. To me it reeks of the pathetic, groveling, “I’ll suck your dick” energy they have when someone installs Chrome.
Windows 10 changed a lot over the course of its lifetime, and while some feature are good, like Dark Mode, they’re mostly useless or downright bad. So putting something that most people will never use and will greatly confuse and annoy the average user in a place that has been dedicated to a single function for at the very least Windows 10’s entire lifetime (I think it’s there in 8 and maybe 7 also) for seemingly no reason other than to fuck with people’s muscle memory is just one more move very worthy of griping about, no matter how easy it is for users to turn off. Because 99% of users just won’t, because they aren’t confident enough to go futzing around in the settings. But they’ll still get whatever god awful popup this button shows every time they try to show desktop like they’ve been doing for over a decade. It’s yet another change that nobody asked for, nobody will use, and that the user will have to remember that it’s different now for no reason.