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Everyone will have their personal perspective on certain protests based on a number of factors.

A lot of people wanted the BLM riots shut down with lethal force because of the senseless violence and destruction in some cities. Otoh, some people thought they didn’t go far enough. Someone whose city was destroyed would have a different perspective than someone whose city was just fine. People might have different views based on their view of the black community and their relationship with the rest of American society.

A lot of people thought the trucker convoy in Canada was a just fight against oppression, but many people thought they were just a bunch of antivaxx confederate Nazis and thought the use of any level of violence was justified because they were disrupting people’s lives and they were secretly trying to clone Hitler. There was a broad spectrum of views and they only represented a piece of that spectrum.

Real politics is usually more complicated than just good vs. evil, it’s really hard having one set of rules that apply equally and equitably to diverse people.

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TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Saying cities were ‘destroyed’ is a bit hyperbolic. Even the cities with the craziest riots, like Portland just had a block of the city dedicated to it. The Capital Hill Autonomous Zone (CHAZ), that the news used to make Portland look like a warzone, only covered 2 intersections of the city.

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- CloverSi@lemmy.comfysnug.space ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  I think the point they were making was that someone whose home, safety, or means of income were damaged or destroyed would have a different perspective than someone who wasn’t adversely affected, regardless of the big picture.
  
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  - TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Oh I agree with that statement, the original comment just needs to be narrowed down. Nobody’s city was destroyed. Some people had their business properties destroyed, but I imagine most of the shops that were broken or burned had some sort of insurance, and most of them avoided bankruptcy.
    
    I do feel bad for anyone whose livelihood was affected by that, though. I think a lot of the rioters’ anger was misplaced.
    
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    Drusas@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    The problem is you framing protesters as rioters. There were relatively very few rioters and a lot of them were simply opportunists who would have been rioting regardless of what the protests were about. Bad actors exist everywhere.
    
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  - Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Whose home was destroyed?
    
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    hakase@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    …wikipedia.org/…/List_of_arson_damage_during_the_…
    
    Multiple individual residences and at least two apartment buildings in Chicago, for starters, and that was just one of the riots.
    
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- Drusas@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  CHAZ was in Seattle and it was massively overblown by the media. I live here. It was like two square blocks and mostly full of young people treating it like a festival.
  
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  - TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Thank you for the correction. Sorry I misremembered and got it confused with other events around the same time.
    
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  - Derproid@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    i imagine some of the people that lived there before CHAZ didn’t feel the same way.
    
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- jeffw@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Also worth noting that a study show a lot of the violence was started by cops, and then people reciprocated. Another study noted 90-95% of the protests were peaceful.
  
  Only bigots call them riots, to push a political narrative.
  
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Danterious@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Yeah real politics is complicated and messy but that doesn’t mean we should demonize the act of fighting for our rights. And that is the thing that I am worried about. That people are starting to see fighting for your rights as a bad thing.

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- Zorque@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  They don't see it as fighting for your rights, is the thing, though. They see it as petulant children whining about not getting dessert*.
  
  *not my opinion
  
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  - Eldritch@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Yes. They’re happily ignorant about everyone but themselves. They believe we achieved perfect equality in the 60s. And that Obama marked the end of racism. Not it’s resurgence.
    
    Their own struggles are everyone else’s fault. Everyone else’s struggles are their own fault. It’s stupidity and its final form.
    
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    bobs_monkey@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Somehow I highly doubt they’re in their final form of stupidity.
    
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CloverSi@lemmy.comfysnug.space ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Beautifully put my friend. If you ever run for office you have my vote.

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