I would be willing to pay more as they are subsidizing the cost with the advertising. I have seen computer monitors are coming with ‘smart’ functionality now. Don’t want that.
Eggyhead@kbin.social 4 months ago
Can I just get a cheaper option that has no software whatsoever?
RedWeasel@lemmy.world 4 months ago
HelloHotel@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Is it okay to start covering things with tinfoil yet?, I have herd rumors that these “smart” things are so internet access horny they will steal the negbors guest wifi.
Spotlight7573@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Something like Amazon Sidewalk could be used by a device to send back telemetry theoretically but I haven’t heard of it actually being used for that. Connecting to an open Wi-Fi network or some partnership with an ISPs (like Xfinity) seems like the easiest thing a device could do though.
mundane@feddit.nu 4 months ago
What in the actual fuck
HelloHotel@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Oh man, I forgot about that beutiful thing.
Spotlight7573@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Removing the software wouldn’t make it cheaper considering where TV manufacturers are making their money nowadays. The choice would be between a cheap smart TV and a more expensive dumb TV. This has been going on for years.
From 2021:
theverge.com/…/vizio-acr-advertising-inscape-data…
It’s been less than a year since Vizio became a publicly traded company, and one consequence of that is we know more about its business than ever before. The TV maker released its latest earnings report on Tuesday and revealed that over the last three months, its Platform Plus segment that includes advertising and viewer data had a gross profit of $57.3 million. That’s more than twice the amount of profit it made selling devices like TVs, which was $25.6 million, despite those device sales pulling in considerably more revenue.
Then there’s this taken to the extreme:
theverge.com/…/telly-free-tv-streaming-ilya-pozin…
There’s a new type of TV coming […], and it’s completely free if you don’t count the price of your attention — or data. Telly […] offers up a TV that makes up for its nonexistent price tag by showing constant advertisements in a second, smaller display.
OwlPaste@lemmy.world 4 months ago
All i want for Christmas is a large dumb tv
circuscritic@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
Hard to find, and unnecessary, as long as it has HDMI ports.
I have NEVER hooked up a smart TV to the Internet, and they work just fine with my digital boxes.
Same goes for the Blu-ray player that has Netflix, fuck that noise.
If there’s a dumb option that is cheaper, go for it. Just don’t think you have to pay a premium for it, when you can just not put the TV on your network.
clgoh@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
I feel that they will soon have built-in 5G that you can’t disable, to phone home.
HelloHotel@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Like @circucritic said, its expensive to use 5g modems here, leach off the negbors guest wifi, hostage the consumer until they give you internet or use 3g or 4g modems.
Buy a model no later than 2021 or so, or rip out the antennas/put it in a faraday cage. (Yes, tinfoil works)
circuscritic@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
That would be incredibly expensive. 5G modems are not cheap, and I can’t imagine there’s enough consumer demand that would justify the additional costs. They’d be in clearance bins within a year or two.
I’m sure skme niche displays already have embedded 5G WWAN modems, but they’d be commerical displays for digital signage, videoconferencing, etc. Those won’t be cheap, or consumer standard issue anytime soon.
Mongostein@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
That would require a subscription to a 5G carrier, which would be crazy expensive here.
I can’t remember which brands, but some have been found to connect to any open wifi network to do it.
Kanzar@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Lucky (?) for me I live in a mobile service blackspot…