Look, no hate, but I always find these kinds of comments funny because I've been reading them for well over a decade.
It's not going to happen, certainly not in any significant numbers.
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z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 9 months ago
That’s it Microsoft…keep pushing more people to use Linux. 🐧
Hyperreality@kbin.social 9 months ago
BombOmOm@lemmy.world 9 months ago
It’s not going to happen
It’s…been happening. Notice how gaming on Linux is an actual thing and large companies like Valve now put out things like the SteamDeck that use Linux, not Windows.
ares35@kbin.social 9 months ago
windows costs money, per device. microsoft places limits, pretty strict ones, on how far oems can go wrt customizations of the oobe, the ui/ux, and other shit. valve didn't chose linux because of anything other than it was the only reasonable choice for what they wanted to produce.
BombOmOm@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Just the fact Linux is a viable, and preferred, choice for a gaming handheld speaks volumes to how fall Windows has slipped. This was an arena that nobody else competed in 10 years ago, the only choice was Windows.
Plopp@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Valve has been doing (or trying to do) Linux things for a long time. The reason is Microsoft’s move towards a centralized Windows Store and their Xbox on Windows. That’s a huge threat to Valve because they could all of a sudden find themselves in a situation where the preferred way to game on Windows is through their gaming competitor Microsoft’s services because they control the OS. That’s why Valve has been working hard for many years now to get gaming on Linux to the state it’s currently in. It’s for survival on their part.
RayJW@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
So, do you stop rooting for your favourite sports team because they can’t be world champion? Do you not support a small artist you like because he won’t ever be as big as van Gogh?
Like, will desktop Linux overtake Windows anytime soon in market share? No. Do I use Linux on all my machines? Yes. Does that mean I’m not allowed to like it / hope for more adoption or hell, help people who would like to get away from Windows?
I get your point and I mostly agree. But why exactly should that be an argument for people to stop liking / improving something that’s objectively got more future?
Zagorath@aussie.zone 9 months ago
he won’t ever be as big as van Gogh
Wait until you learn how big van Gogh was during his life…
hips_and_nips@lemmy.world 9 months ago
TL;DR:
“Stop advocating for things you care about, it’ll never happen. Fuck your passions and your want to share them with people.”
That’s how you sound.
gila@lemm.ee 9 months ago
I don’t think entry level users are what will be converted, at least first. It’s users like you and me. Users that, for whatever reason, haven’t preferred Linux historically. I’ve tried the new popular distro every few years to ‘check in’ with Linux, and each time I ended up running into some issue which reaffirmed my preference for Windows sooner or later.
Until I tried Debian 12 a couple of months ago, that is. Between nonfree drivers, Wayland and its compatibility throughout the ecosystem, and updates to GNOME, it’s honestly been refreshingly user-friendly and feels more optimised than Windows.
Importantly, in searching for alternatives to Windows-only software I use, I didn’t have any problems and in one case actually ended up finding new software I prefer.
The peace of mind of my OS not trying to sell me something or trying to farm my engagement is nice too, but not why I’d recommend giving it a try. I’ve always gotten behind it in principle support of free software, but now I can get behind it actually using it. I’d recommend it because it genuinely seems better in my general use.
bdonvr@thelemmy.club 9 months ago
Linux has something hing like 15% market share in India and growing
Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
Linux people are so annoying
z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 9 months ago
Yeah we are… but not more annoying than Microsoft pushing ads everywhere. 😋
0x2d@lemmy.ml 9 months ago
:3
Plopp@lemmy.world 9 months ago
It’s working. I’m in the (looooooong) process of moving over to Linux.
BombOmOm@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Same here, I used to be 100% Windows, now I only have a single device in my house that uses it. Windows becomes less useful over time as they push these dark patterns as Linux continues to improve.
nickhammes@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I’m similar, I have my gaming desktop running Win10, and my old gaming desktop which migrated from Win7 to Win10 acting as a media center PC. Everything else is using Linux, either Debian or Proxmox. When Win10 hits end of life, the media center PC is an easy upgrade to Debian, but proton only supports ~70% of the games I’d like to play well, so I either need to keep a Windows machine around, or do virtualization + hardware passthrough, both of which are a pain.
With the direction Windows is going, I don’t think I’ll really even want a VM in 2030.
Asafum@feddit.nl 9 months ago
Gaming is literally the only thing keeping me chained to windows. As you said 70% is not 100% and I play a lot of random games. It’s not enough to play some of what I want just to avoid Microsuck even though I reallllllly want to…
Plopp@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Exactly. I only have my workstation on Windows still. Well, it has Linux too, but I use some Windows only software and hardware so it’ll be some time before I figure that out. Will probably have to run Windows in a VM with hardware pass through, if I can get reasonable latency for music production that way.