What brand do you suggest in the alternative?
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ZephyrXero@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I certainly have no interest in buying one as long as he’s still involved
cheese_greater@lemmy.world 5 months ago
AshMan85@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Well considering telsa isn’t even the #1 ev any more? I guess anything else.
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 5 months ago
In the world, but not in most western nations.
sir_reginald@lemmy.world 5 months ago
They downvote you because that’s a very western-centric vision.
Additionally, a car manufacturer in one of your western nations, Volkswagen, is also one of the top EV manufacturers.
And nearly every other manufacturer like Hyundai, BMW, Mercedes and Ford are now making EVs too. So it’s not like there’s a shortage of non-Tesla EVs in the western.
Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 5 months ago
Volvo's EVs seem pretty nice
You999@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Also check out Volvos preformace/electric decision polestar.
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 5 months ago
IMHO, Polestars have a MUCH nicer cabin than Telsa. Also, Android Automotive with CarPlay.
SorteKanin@feddit.dk 5 months ago
Just found out Volvo is owned by a Chinese investment group, not sure how I feel about supporting that either.
Is it even possible to ethically buy a car in this day and age?
Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 5 months ago
There is no ethical consumption under capitalism.
sir_reginald@lemmy.world 5 months ago
what’s the difference between a Chinese investment group and a US investment group? They are both terrible. There’s no ethical mega corp, I’m afraid.
ski11erboi@lemm.ee 5 months ago
I felt the same way but ended up going with a volvo anyway because Chinese Investment or not, the company does at least try to make an effort to be more safe, ethical, and sustainable. Given the alternatives I made the decision that volvo was still the right car for me.
jqubed@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I would buy from a company that knows how to build cars already so the difference is mostly a new power train, not an entirely new product. That’s not to say Tesla, Lucid, or Rivian can’t build a good product, but there are more unknowns with them. As with any car, be careful buying the first model year.
brick@lemm.ee 5 months ago
The Ford Mach-E is excellent. I have also heard great things about Kia/Hyundai, VW and Volvo EVs as well.
In 2016 I drove a Tesla Model S P85D and I was surprised at how crappy the interior was considering it was a six figure car. And I don’t mean minimalist, I mean poor quality.
Back then, Tesla was you only real option. Today, there’s a lot of great competition in the market.
DreadPotato@sopuli.xyz 5 months ago
VW and Volvo both make some pretty bad EV’s IME, they have a ton of software issues and the entire infotainment system is insanely slow and buggy, which is a big problem when thats the main interface to the car. The interior is also very low quality. Software and infotainment is a general issue for them though and not strictly their EVs.
jflorez@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
I have a Hyundai Kona Electric and it is fantastic. My next car will be the next version on the Kona EV in a few years
los_chill@programming.dev 5 months ago
Ford
Blackout@kbin.social 5 months ago
LWD@lemm.ee 5 months ago
BYD, NIO, JAC, FAW, BAIC,
XDDCC
NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 5 months ago
no interest in buying one
Did you mean a car, or a share?
Oh, wait… it doesn’t matter.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Exactly. At the moment we’re just watching the Tesla board grit their teeth and look worried. By the time they get around to Doing What Needs To Be Done, will it be too late?
Same for SpaceX. No one will ever give a shit about Twitter again already.
NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 5 months ago
we’re just watching the Tesla board grit their teeth and look worried.
Bad strategy IMHO. Coupling their fate to one person’s ever declining mental health cannot bring anything else than their decline.
DarkThoughts@fedia.io 5 months ago
Teslas are very well known to have absolute garbage tier quality anyway.
moistclump@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Did they always or is that more recent ones?
CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Hard to say. Cars put out before the Model 3 were typically not sold at large quantities. So the lower runs were sold to rich people or fanboys at first and it’s hard to get an honest long term review about them.
From what I’ve seen though, their earlier cars weren’t filled with tech like the newer ones which meant less points of failure so I’m betting the older ones were at least somewhat better.
DarkThoughts@fedia.io 5 months ago
I can't really speak for the early models but all the ones in recent years, so mostly the Model 3 I think, were plagued with issues.
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I’ve driven in a Model S from before the Model 3 came out, and the build quality was worse than the Model 3.
Significantly worse than the Skoda Fabia I bought almost new for £12k at around the same time. That thing isn’t flashy but man it’s put together solidly. Nothing rattles, nothing wobbles, all stitching is consistent, no glued-on materials are peeling off, the panel gaps are consistent everywhere, the paint is thick. None of that was true for the Tesla.
Don’t get me wrong, part of me enjoyed driving in that Model S, the acceleration was insane, but the build quality was absolutely appalling.
I thought it was just car reviewers who are used to high end Mercs, Bentleys, and BMWs, needlessly trashing Tesla, and that the build quality would be fine. But it wasn’t, if anything they go way too easy on Tesla.
fosforus@sopuli.xyz 5 months ago
Are they though?