Comment on I feel like Fediverse users are nicer to each other and more generous with upvotes than reddit.

• Whirlybird@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  At least in the app I’m using there is no cumulative score for your upvotes/downvotes, so people don’t care about it.

  Also comments don’t seem to get hidden due to downvotes thankfully. That was always a stupid system.

  Tbh I wish that the comment voting system didn’t exist, or that to downvote you had to write a legit reason why, and everyone could vote the votes and reasons. Too many people just use it as a disagree button.

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  • Cyyy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Also comments don’t seem to get hidden due to downvotes thankfully. That was always a stupid system.

    i hate this so much about reddit. a lot of users abuse this system so much to hide your comments so nobody sees them anymore… they just vanish because the usually user don’t clicks unhide.

    even if you are nice in the comment and are in the right… if someone dislikes your comment they can pull out their twink accounts and downvote it. and if a comment is at around -3 to -4 or similiar, most users just click downvote without actually reading it… because “others have downvoted that comment so it has to be right. downvote click”

    its just so toxic on reddit…

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    • zeppo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yep, reddit works with upvote and downvote bandwagons. Often (though not always) the first votes on a comment or post determine how the whole thing will go, especially with the sec-reinforcing sorting. I noticed what you said about downvotes too, that if someone has an slightly hard to interpret, ambiguous or sarcastic post, once a few people downvoted it, other people will assume it’s a “bad” post and be more likely to down it themselves. Also you can post the same comment on similar threads in the same sub 2 days apart and the results might be wildly different depending on timing, placement, or just who saw it first.

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      • Cyyy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        i’m around 12 years on reddit, and votes & how good a post or comments gets welcomed by the communitys on reddit feels kinda random to me.

        you can post like you said the same thing at random times, and it will be either welcomed or punished to hell. i had times where i tried to find out if time & timezones have something to do, but even when trying to post on specific times this didn’t changed much.

        after all this years, i decided for myself posting on reddit is like a dice. you roll and either win or fail.

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  • TurboDiesel@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    See, I don’t see a problem with using it as a disagree button, especially since the count is useless on Lemmy. My client (Jerboa) does give a cumulative score, but again, in the absence of The Algorithm™️ it’s just notational. Sometimes a shit take is just a shit take, and it’s not worth fighting with trolls. Downvote and move on.

    I will say I 100% agree that I like that the up/down ratio doesn’t auto-hide a comment. It was too easy to manipulate the system on Reddit, and sometimes a (genuinely) unpopular opinion was insightful.

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  • Rivalarrival@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    There was a time when Reddit showed not just the sum of upvotes and downvotes, but the counts of both. The best comments were always the ones with hundreds of both up and down.

    Then they hid that, and you needed to use RES to resurrect the downvotes. Then they removed the separate downvote count entirely, replacing it with the controversial tag. Problem is that the flag didn’t differentiate between 5/3 (+2) and 5000/4998 (+2).

    That was the end of Reddiquette, and the beginning of Reddit’s decline into mediocrity.

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    • Z4rK@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Do we know their reasoning behind replacing it with the tag?

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  • zeppo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It would be nice to not have drive by downvotes, though I don’t always have the energy to explain or reply to someone. About the shit reasons though… how is that determined? Do we have to uh, vote on the reasons too?

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  • DrQuint@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I wish the system existed but was 100% hidden except for the OP.

    It’s cool tp know that a topic got a hundred thousand upvotes and was the highlight of the day. But there’s literally no reason to know if someone is currently being brigaded or boosted, it just preempts and primes what judgement they receive.

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  • Drunemeton@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I like up vote only.

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• everythingsucks@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  From my new user experience it seems like active comments get placed higher regardless of upvoted. i.e. comments that are still being commented on or new ones.

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  • scottywh@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    There’s sort options for comment order.

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  • MegadethRulz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I like that system actually. Sometimes an unpopular opinion on Reddit would get downvoted and buried but it sparked an interesting discussion where the rest of the thread would be quality content. I like seeing some heavily downvoted comments sometimes and hiding that isn’t necessary. I feel like the user should have control over what way they get their feed and how upvotes and downvotes effect that.

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