I agree with you but this is more of a societal issue and not necessarily a Twitch issue. I think twitch following the standards set by society was reasonable however them pushing to improve upon those is absolutely welcome.
It is if women’s nipples are nudity but men’s nipples are not.
Mac@mander.xyz 6 months ago
Chriswild@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I disagree. At one point in time it was society saying black people couldn’t eat with white people and it was people and companies willing to push that boundary that changed this.
We are all members of society and it is on us to constantly push back against the unfair traditions in our community.
Zron@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Did you just equate Jim Crow with not being able to see titties on a mainstream streaming site?
You know you can see titties on other streaming sites, right?
Chriswild@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Yikes why even reply to people if you want to be this deliberately dishonest.
IgnisIncendio@ani.social 6 months ago
This is just a bad strawman. People want equality, not titties. Jim Crow is only used as a analogy to show that pushing back on inequalities is a good thing, and “we’re just following societal standards” isn’t a really good excuse.
Grimy@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Bad take in my opinion. It’s quite clear the difference between the two in our society.
OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Wait a minute could our society be sexist?
WhiteHawk@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Maybe, maybe not, that really makes no difference here
Signtist@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Yeah, but that difference is specifically rooted in sexism and misogyny. The very fact that we can all see the difference that isn’t much of a difference shows that there’s a divide that needs to be bridged. We only think women’s nipples are inappropriate because we were taught to. Plenty of cultures around the world don’t see breasts as inappropriate, and they’re doing just fine.
tory@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Yeah, but you’re not going to stop people from getting horny when looking at breasts no matter how much you educate them. So idk what your goal is.
Signtist@lemm.ee 6 months ago
No, it’s not. People at nude beaches or at nudist colonies aren’t walking around with erections all day. African communities where women don’t wear tops don’t have guys jerking off whenever they get a chance. The sexualization of breasts in our culture is a product of our association with breasts as a purely sexual object, and the viewing of them as a purely sexual act. The way that stops being a thing is by allowing them to exist in non-sexual contexts, and teaching a new generation that they are just like any other body part.
If a girl nonchalantly takes off her top while going about her day today, it will be viewed as a sexual thing, because anyone who sees will have only seen such an act in sexual contexts. If, for several years, women all around the US are empowered to nonchalantly take off their tops whenever feel like it, it will become a common, non-sexualized act, because it will be associated more with everyday life than with what people do behind closed doors.
Chriswild@lemmy.world 6 months ago
That doesn’t mean society isn’t sexist. There’s lots of bullshit society is sexist about like how men can’t be loving and affectionate parents.
Gljvf@lemmy.today 6 months ago
Or how you can mutilate male sexual organs for profit but can’t do so to female sexual organs
sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 6 months ago
Society also says a kilt and a plaid skirt are two different things. Yet my Scottish roommate wore a plaid skirt from Zara to a party and no one batted an eye.
Free the balls, man.
prunerye@slrpnk.net 6 months ago
There are literal sex differences between men and women. If we’re including those in the definition of sexism, we cheapen the word.
Chriswild@lemmy.world 6 months ago
You should apply for the fantastic four with that much stretch. There’s fucking nipples and we literally stick them in the mouths of our infants. You know damn well that we’re not talking about the differences between men and women but the way society and twitch threats people differently.
Even men who present as women on twitch have seen this. Finnster has had bans for shit nobody would care about if he weren’t so feminine looking.
prunerye@slrpnk.net 6 months ago
Yes, we’re talking about the way society and twitch treats people differently… on the basis of physical sexual characteristics expressly regarding the topic of physical sexual characteristics. I’ve never used Twitch, but unless there’s something I’m supposed to be reading inbetween the lines, I don’t see the problem with banning female nipples. If society is going to have any standards on the rejection of nudity, I don’t see why the line has to be drawn somewhere before nipples and no further.
hedgehog@ttrpg.network 6 months ago
When you say “Physical sexual characteristics,” do you understand that the word “sexual” refers not to the act of sex but to a person’s biological sex? Physical sexual characteristics include anything that expresses differently due to differing amounts of gonadocorticoids, like a person’s height, their body and facial hair, their body shape, the sound of their voice, their ease with developing muscle mass, etc…
A woman’s (or femme presenting person’s) nipples are not sex organs any more than a man’s mustache is.
sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 6 months ago
What’s the difference between male and female nipples?
Mango@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Show of hands, how many here have jerked it to male nipples?
starman2112@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Some people have jerked it to fully clothed women. Ought we ban every woman from twitch? Maybe enforce hijabs?
grayman@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Too sexy, must enforce nikabs!
Keep it flaccid or we’re going full burka!
SineSwiper@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months ago
No, that’s literally how the laws in most countries work. It turns out men and women have different biology.
OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
Why not have a “no nipples” policy in general? I’m guessing that if parents think that their 7 year olds are going on Twitch to see boobs, they could lose some viewers.
But yes, policies should be applied equally.
PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
Because having a no nipples policy is a stupid way to live your life. Free your nipples.
cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I’d rather not show you my nipples.
PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
Fine keep your secrets.
Confuzzeled@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Something wrong with them huh?
TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 6 months ago
This is not about women being free to go shirtless which is fair, this about eyeballs and ads. This lazy sex work. This corporate giants profiteering. This about that corporate giants maintaining brand image control. Reducing it to a slogan is missing the rest of the picture.
Fish@midwest.social 6 months ago
Free the nipple