Comment on Starlink loses out on $886 million in rural broadband subsidies

aniki@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• Mr_Blott@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I live two hours from a city, waaaay up in the Alps and I have gigabit fibre lol

  Your infrastructure sucks donkeyballs 😂

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  • PRUSSIA_x86@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    two hours is waaaay out there guys!

    My sides are in orbit! Here is a side-by side of the Alps Image next to a small section of the American Rockies,Image which is still nothing compared to Canada (yes there are people in that big empty area).Image No offense, but true European rural doesn’t exist.

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    • snor10@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      No offense, but true European rural doesn’t exist.

      Bro, come to northern Sweden and say that again lol

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      • PRUSSIA_x86@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Touch lol

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      • vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Also if we’re talking about the European continent as a whole finland, the urals, and maybe the west coast of ireland depending on definitions.

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      • aniki@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Come to the most uninhabitable place on the continent for some real rural living!

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    • Mr_Blott@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Me -

      Your infrastructure is shit

      You -

      Here, I will demonstrate how correct you are

      😂

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      • PRUSSIA_x86@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        You were being an ignorant dick and I called you on it. It’s not my fault you can’t handle a few hours on the road.

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    • brenticus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Shit, that picture outside Edmonton is hardly even distant, there are a bunch of communities in northern Alberta and BC that don’t even have roads going to them because they’re too far away.

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      • tripledip@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I hear there’s roads in the winter, lol.

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  • aniki@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    No where in Europe is “remote.”

    Come to the South West US where you can drive 100 miles in any direction and barely see another human.

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    • Bjornir@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Or maybe don’t go there and then complain about the obvious shortfalls of the place. The rural exodus happened for a reason.

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      • PRUSSIA_x86@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        The rural exodus happened for many reasons, none of which have to do with the availability of high-speed internet. People are born where they are born, and often live there too. Sometimes that place is densely populated and replete with amenities, such as the Alps, sometimes its the not. You don’t have to be an uneducated dick.

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      • circuscritic@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        "Haha stupid poor people. Why don’t you just move somewhere else? Have you tried not being poor? Have you tried not being born in a poor remote rural area? Did you even try to upgrade your parent’s tax bracket?”

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      • aniki@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        It’s not a shortfall thanks to Starlink. Are you following along?

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      • DrPop@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        But taxes…

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    • snor10@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You can easily drive 100 miles in northern Sweden and see nothing but trees lol

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  • Grangle1@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s a difference between definitions of “city” and “middle of nowhere” between the US and Europe. The US is a massive place. Part of the reason the US appears to have such a crappy infrastructure is that when, say, mobile carriers want to improve it to upgrade something to 5G, they have to do so for the entire country, with many US states having an area the size of whole European countries. Texas itself is the size of Germany. That is a much bigger undertaking than improving it for a single European country or even a block of countries like western or central Europe. Things are so spread out here that “remote” can mean REALLY remote in some areas. Distances between reasonably sized cities in the US can be much larger than in Europe, and the US has more people in those more rural areas than some think, especially in states in the middle of the country. Local ISPs for internet in those areas can be good depending on the area, but a lot of people in the really rural areas would still be better and more easily served by a service like Starlink.

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    • SupraMario@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      wideopencountry.com/map-shows-countries-fit-insid…

      This is far more hilarious to see that a good number of European countries fit inside of Texas.

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  • time_fo_that@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Sounds wonderful tbh

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• Takumidesh@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Today you learned that the majority of people don’t live in the middle of nowhere?

  Of course they don’t, by definition, if a bunch of people lived there, it wouldn’t be the middle of nowhere.

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  • blazeknave@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Lmao you’re being a pedantic dick bc you know what they meant… and I’m cracking up enjoying everything about it

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• Cocodapuf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Yeah, Musk has gone insane, anyone can see that.

  But Musk aside, LEO satellites are still really the only viable and economical solution to the problem of broadband in rural areas, and Starlink seems to work great.

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  • masquenox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Musk has gone insane

    No, he hasn’t. He’s just a bog-standard capitalist doing bog-standard capitalist things.

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    • Cocodapuf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Explicitly not the point of my post…

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• JeffKerman1999@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Middle of nowhere between fields: I have 5g router and 300+mbps

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  • aniki@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    If you’re pulling 5G you’re not remote.

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  • misophist@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Brother, we have wildly different definitions of “nowhere” if you get 5G. When I lived in a rural shithole in the US, I had to drive 100 miles to start picking up 5G signals (though that was just before the pandemic, so maybe 5G coverage has improved greatly in the past 3 years).

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    • JeffKerman1999@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Closest town is 55km away

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      • PRUSSIA_x86@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Shit man, I used to commute almost that exact distance each way. Anything under triple digits is practically in-town in many places.

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• Salad_Fries@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  My partner’s family lives on a dirt road between a corn field and cow pasture… a full 1.5 hour drive from the nearest mid-sized city… they have gigabit fiber…

  Not saying that their situation is currently typical, but id argue it is indeed a sign that good internet is slowly but surely coming available to everyone.

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