Comment on Epic win: Jury decides Google has illegal monopoly in app store fight

• Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The Galaxy store app on my phone says otherwise.

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  • Gestrid@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The Galaxy Store was a special exception made for Samsung. Generally, Google is pretty “persuasive” about being the only pre-installed app store on the phone.

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  • ExLisper@linux.community ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What’s in the contract between Google and Samsung? What exactly are the conditions for including both stores? Can any phone manufacturer get the same deal? What are the requirements for licensing Android? What number of phones on the market don’t include Play Store by default? What % of applications are only in Play Store?

    Monopoly is not about exceptions but about market control. Until you know what companies have to do to use Android and function on the market you can’t really tell if it’s monopoly or not.

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    • captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I have to imagine the contract that Samsung has is “We’re Samsung. We basically ARE Korean technology. We can build our own mobile OS if we want to and cut you out entirely. That’s a lot of spying on customers you wouldn’t get to do. We get our own app store or we walk. Oh look, LG just exited the smart phone market. Do what must be done.”

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    • helenslunch@feddit.nl ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      What’s in the contract between Google and Samsung?

      Samsung uses Google’s OS (or a fork of it anyway). One of the conditions in the ToS of using that for commercial purposes is that you have to have a certain number of Google apps and services installed and not removable.

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• Voyajer@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Does the Amazon store, Galaxy Store, AppGallery, Mi GetApps, and AOPPO app market not exist?

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  • Laticauda@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Are those all on the phone by default?

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    • icedterminal@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I can’t speak for the others, but the Samsung Galaxy Store does come pre-installed. However, Google paid Samsung for the Play Store to be the default action for app installs. So you get both stores and can pick which one you want.

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      • Rose@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That’s just two options from two big players who cooperate, and only on some devices.

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      • Laticauda@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The Samsung galaxy store comes pre-installed on Samsung phones, I haven’t heard of it being pre-installed on non-samsung phones.

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    • helenslunch@feddit.nl ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Galaxy Store is…

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      • Laticauda@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        But they’re only default on their respective devices right?

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    • chiliedogg@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Amazon store and Galaxy store are absolutely installed by default on many devices.

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      • Laticauda@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        So what you’re saying is that two of them are installed by default, but not all of them?

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    • aidan@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Mi app store is, and on Chinese models is the only one.

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      • Rose@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The jury settled on the relevant geographic market being “worldwide excluding China”.

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