I mean there’s still a good amount of people in my position where you can’t fit 3 car seats in any ev in the market. Haven’t checked in the past year, maybe it’s changed but I also can’t afford to waste 60k+
Comment on Fear of cheap Chinese EVs spurs automaker dash for affordable cars
vivadanang@lemm.ee 9 months ago
gee the market has been clamoring for a decade while the auto industry said “BIG TRUCKS AND SUV’S!”
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
jennwiththesea@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Or in a five-seater car or crossover. It’s ridiculous. Carseats and boosters are massive, even the ones with the smallest bases. Then after that you need space for sports equipment, musical instruments, other friends, etc. I’m not sure what the solution is here, other than acknowledging that for a few years in a family’s life they’re going to need a bigger vehicle, and it would be great if manufacturers offered a hybrid or EV solution for them, too.
Toyota is finally coming out with a PHEV three row next year, starting around $55k. Not sure who else, besides Rivian with their new fully EV three row at $75k+, which is completely unaffordable for most families.
IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 9 months ago
Kia EV9 has three rows and starts at $55k still expensive but definitely in range for a middle class family
jennwiththesea@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Oh, nice! I didn’t have that one on my radar. Our next family car needs to be either hybrid or EV, and I’ve just started looking.
Delta_V@midwest.social 9 months ago
There were two hybrid minivans a couple years ago when I went shopping for one. One plug-in from Chrysler and a non-plug-in from Toyota.
NounsAndWords@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Safety and reliability are two of the biggest factors in family cars. You would think they would want to make larger family vehicles with those selling points.
I just looked it up and the only minivan EV is 114k…
buzz86us@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Yeah and that is part of my point on being pro-Chinese EV… Not only affordability, but the fact that there is simply no choices for certain segments. Our automakers are so conglomerated that there is very minuscule choice in EV since each puts out maybe 2 or 3 models.
There is also proof that competition is causing local builders to step up… With Citroen offering the ec3 with LFP, and 200 miles of range for $20k… Meanwhile Stelantis is releasing absolute trash in the US because they can get away with it.
You can get a Pacifica PHEV with a whole 40 miles of electric range… that is like your one choice… Though the Canoo could meet that need if it ever comes to market.
There is a similar issue for cargo vans the US has like 3 choices for electric… Meanwhile even European buyers have far more choice.
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 9 months ago
Honestly it feels like most companies producing child seats and strollers and whatnot (as well as the stores that stock and sell them) have stopped putting any focus on solutions for 2 or more children and instead only produce solutions for only children. I’ve got 2 young kids 2 years apart and we had a heck of a time finding a double stroller among other things
kameecoding@lemmy.world 9 months ago
if only you did your basic research
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
I did, I tried to fit my seats in one actually. Before making a snarky comment, you should do your research and know that not all car seats conform to a size. Some are bigger than others and the front seats cannot touch the car seat in a rear facing configuration. I’m tall enough there was no way I could drive the car.
kameecoding@lemmy.world 9 months ago
what sized seats do you have that it doesn’t fit into a fucking Ioniq5?
maybe you will need the Kia EV9 then, because that is a ridiculously sized thing.
BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 9 months ago
I mean people also eat it up like good luttle piggies.
ExLisper@linux.community 9 months ago
Yes, people being dumb is the real source of all issues.