Comment on Reactionaries have you used the same talking points to shun progress throughout history.

• crackajack@reddthat.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I think that’s what they mean that “you become conservative as you grow older”. To me, doing so means you succumbed to the system.

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  • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I have become more leftwing as I have grown older.

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    • chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Same.

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      • doctorcrimson@lemmy.today ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I think I’ve gotten more conservative in that I now think a democratic system of law and slow progress for a better future is possible via peaceful means, which technically means I’m no longer for radical reform progressivism, and also I’ve been considering arming myself to protect my family (from Maga terrorists in the event of a civil war). But I’m still left as fuck, bro.

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      • Freylint@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’ve seen a few people go from brown nosers, to union men, to “mad about capitalism”. Some of them even graduated to “this guy’s been reading books”, I know only one who’s begun pitifully stockpiling arms and ammo and another who joined mutual aid. I’m still quite young, but most lefties of my early adulthood bourgeios white educated American caste are only considering action as a result of Israeli Imperialism and fear of a another world imperial struggle. The vast majorities of these are still socially tolerant neoloberals.

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  • funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    well im 40 and I’m a lefty as shit. when does it kick in?

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    • crackajack@reddthat.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Maybe “becoming conservative” as one grows older means differently to other people. Personally for me, as i grow older, I think it means looking for more stability. Which i can get behind but it doesn’t mean i will vote to cut taxes for the rich and austerity. Same as you, I’d stay leftie because i support social justice.

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      • SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’ll be honest, the older I get and the more I realize just how fucked the whole system is, the less I desire stability lmao

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    • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      when you fall for the peer pressure and propaganda of conservatism

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    • rayyy@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      when does it kick in?

      About the time greed, senility and selfishness kicks in.

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  • alvvayson@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That’s what they mean and what they hope you do.

    In reality, only a small amount of people make that transition, and usually it is because of brain rot combined with propaganda like Fox news.

    Most people do get milder and more realistic as they age, but not necessarily more conservative.

    You can still find a lot of leaft-leaning old hippies. I guess Bernie Sanders would be the most famous one.

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    • Revan343@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      In previous generations, people did on average become more conservative as they got older; people like Bernie Sanders are the exception.

      It’s less true with newer generations because we aren’t accumulating wealth like our parents and grandparents did, and it’s the accumulation of wealth that encourages conservatism

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  • OtakuAltair@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    On the contrary, this conflict has made me go from a liberal to a hardline leftist.

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    • Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That is something to be proud of! Welcome to the cause.

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  • Bondrewd@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    My rule of thumb is that sidevolving is easier than improving or degrading.

    If you are a dumb conservative, you are statistically more likely to have been a dumb liberal.

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    • Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Once you are a radicalized leftist you’re not going back to (neo) liberalism. You could downgrade to a social democrat, though. Its unlikely a politically active liberal is going to be so disenfranchised they become reactionary… And your explanation is exactly the reason why. If the political activity is coming from self-centeredness, then that person may resort to reactionary politics at some point.

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  • WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I don’t think it’s necessarily succumbing to it. Usually it’s more of the fact that you’re well established and have money and a house, so you feel that things don’t need to change anymore so you end up voting conservative. However since it’s seeming more and more likely home ownership and even retirement are too far away to ever be achievable for young people this shifting to conservative as you get older might not happen anymore.

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    • crackajack@reddthat.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Now that you mentioned, maybe once a person get into position of power, they become conservative.

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  • YashaB@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What does that mean?

    I might have grown more right-wing in certain topics. I don’t think I’ve succumbed to the system. But I’m not sure.

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    • crackajack@reddthat.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’m thinking more socially. I grew up learning about the counterculture and hippy movement. And yet, the same generation, i.e. Boomers, that brought those activism now have become (and being stereotyped as) conservative.

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  • nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I think it’s more like criticizing how people didn’t learn from the past. The title is about history repeating itself.

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  • rayyy@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Exactly! I’ve seen it in the workplace over the years. Most give up and go-along-to-get-along or face shitty jobs and get passed over for advancements.

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• magnetosphere@kbin.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I didn’t catch that. Neat!

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