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Comment on Walmart, Costco and other companies rethink self-checkout, some stores removing them

zeppo@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

In my experience, self-checkout started with the weight sensors, rather than adding them later. I’ve noticed some stores have a system now without the weight thing, which probably cuts down on confusing and time-consuming error situations, but it makes it seem chaotic. My parents use them in the most fucked up way - leave everything in the cart, scan stuff, bag it, then put it in the cart, and I’m just WHAT? Aren’t they going to accuse you of stealing? Some walmarts aggressively pursue claims of theft from self checkout, like in the case of this lady who was awarded 2.1 million after being accused of stealing ‘over $30’, which she said was not true. This article details the story of a lady who said she was arrested after not scanning things by accident, and the article notes “Sixty-two other people were cited and released by police at the same Tucson Walmart between January 2021 and April 2022.”

During the civil trial, which lasted about three weeks, the judge criticized Walmart for the “intentional loss” of the security camera footage, according to court records. The judge, James T. Patterson, said that the court would advise the jury that the videotapes “were destroyed by the defendants with the intent” to deprive the plaintiff of the benefit of seeing them “and that the jury therefore is to presume that the content of the missing videos would be adverse” to the defendants.

Walmart also is starting to use ‘AI’ to detect self checkout theft, which I’m sure will be foolproof and work out great.

And if you’re wondering which item causes the most problems, it’s milk. O’Herlihy explains, “People find it hard to scan milk … Sometimes they get frustrated and they just don’t scan it.”

What?

Anyway, I’m sure they love not paying employees to do this, but it seems like more trouble than it’s worth.

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Horsey@kbin.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
From Tucson here: Walmart in town is pretty sketchy compared to the other places. We had someone light the chemical isle on fire on Christmas Eve that burnt down half the entire store lmao. Walmart sold itself as a low price retailer for so long that only low income people go there and with that there’s theft and then the classism of hiring armed guards during their high crime periods.

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kaitco@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

And if you’re wondering which item causes the most problems, it’s milk. O’Herlihy explains, “People find it hard to scan milk … Sometimes they get frustrated and they just don’t scan it.”

Does milk not have a bar code?

If anything, I’d figure it would be produce items that would cause the most drama, but eventually you start to remember those codes. 4011 is bananas. 4799 is for tomatoes. 4065 is green peppers…

I love self-checkout because I bag things exactly like I want and I can get the process completed without having chat with the cashier or Karen out on the bagger for putting just two items in a large paper bag.

I don’t think I’ve ever been stopped or accused of stealing things, but then I usually choose the unit closest to the cashier and I leave all my items in the bagging area until I’m done. That said, I used to be a grocery store cashier, so I understand the process a little better than most, but it’s still easy to make mistakes.

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- deegeese@sopuli.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Self checkout scanners are unbearably slow, and if you try to go any faster it’s “unexpected item in bagging area” and wait for the overworked assistant.
  
  I refuse to be bossed around by shitty robots.
  
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- Sigmatank@midwest.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Condensation on milk barcodes causes scanning issues I’ve found
  
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- InvaderDJ@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Probably because it sweats and the pure white nature might make the laser more reflective? Only thing I can think of.
  
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atocci@kbin.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Milk is frustrating to scan? I did it yesterday just fine...

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- Flamingflowerz@kbin.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  The condensation over the barcode/potentially warped shape of the milk often makes it not scan on the first go. Seen it many times haha.
  
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- zeppo@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I’m not sure what that’s supposed to mean. People find it difficult to maneuver? Can’t find the bar code? Self checkouts tend to have a hand scanner too, and they could use that.
  
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  - Kichae@kbin.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    Self checkouts tend to have a hand scanner too
    
    I'm going to guess that this is regional or vendor specific, because I've literally never seen a self-checkout with a hand scanner. And if I ever did, I would expect it to transform into a broken, dangling cable within a few months.
    
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    atocci@kbin.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I know Walmart has them, it's kinda necessary considering the size of some of the products they sell.
    
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    snooggums@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    We have hand scanners at the local grocery chains HyVee and Dillon's (owned by Kroger) that are doing just fine. Lowe's and Home Depot have hand scanners too. They have all sorted out all the 'unexpected item in baggage area' and other stuff years ago.
    
    No idea about Walmart, but could see that type of store going cheap on the hardware and having it treated terribly.
    
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    InvaderDJ@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    It’s fairly new in my area, but it’s great. That and contactless payments (Google and Apple Pay) are nice.
    
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    Karlos_Cantana@kbin.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Every self checkout I've used has a hand scanner. Scanning your own things is so much faster. I fail to understand why people whose job it is to check people out all day are so slow at it.
    
    Then you get the customers that want to have a conversation with the checkout clerk. I'm sure the checkout person doesn't care that your grandfather has the same name and he was name after his great grandfather who rode the rails across the expanding United States in the 1800s.
    
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    zeppo@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Perhaps. I’ve seen many, and they’re wireless. I suppose they might end up missing.
    
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  - atocci@kbin.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Can't wrap my head around this one. I held the gallon up the the scanner, it beeped, and added the price to my total. I can understand if people were intentionally stealing it for any other reason, but to say that the act of scanning it is just too much of a hassle...?
    
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