Comment on We're all just in Stockholm Syndrome to whatever culture we were born into.
originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 9 months agoI like how you ignore the fact you're statistically less safe if you own a gun.
No need to change the subject to ladders.
The point is whatever perceived safety you get from your human killing device is negated by having the device itself.
Oh he didn’t ignore it, he gave you some enthusiastic whataboutism concerning ladders.
I am in fact incredibly careful around ladders, fwiw. And power tools. But those things have constructive applications, where the gun is by its nature destructive.
stevecole90099@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I didn’t ignore it. It’s just a dumb statement for someone to make. You are statistically less safe if you own a toaster. You are statistically less safe if you own a coffee table.
How many toes must be stubbed before we outlaw those tables and their dangerous and harmful legs! Think of the children!
You are statistically less safe from a lot of stuff, but we keep them around because they have an important use.
My gun isn’t going to break into my house and kill me for the 10$ in my wallet, but my cracked up neighbors might. I’ll take my chances with the gun.
SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 9 months ago
What a tool. What other purpose do guns have other than violence? All the other things you mentioned are used for other things. Guns are for killing, and nothing else.
stevecole90099@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Completely ignoring that a lot of guns are used for hunting and even more are used for sport (hey, just like a baseball bat). Guns are a deterrent and an equalizer. They increase a person ability to defend themselves and others from threats stronger or deadlier than they would otherwise be able to face or defend against.
I don’t know who you are, but let’s pretend you are a 4’10" 100lbs girl that lives in a small 6th floor apartment. What do you do to defend yourself from a 7’ tall 280lbs man that just kicked in the door to your apartment? Do you grab a gun and try to put as many rounds as possible in his chest or do you just sit in the apartment and let him have his way with you until the police show up and then continue to stand outside because they think it might be too dangerous for them to actually help you? I mean, what if the man has an illegal gun? Imagine! A criminal with the audacity to have an item that you, a law-abiding citizen, are not allowed to have because they, as you put it, are only used for violence, something criminals are known to not take part in. 🙄
Guns are the best defense against someone or something that is trying to do you harm. That’s the reason it’s so high up on the Bill of Rights. Because life, liberty, and justice are only possible if you have the ability to stop someone from taking them from you. It’s like our forefathers knew what life was like to come from a place where you were nothing more than a peasant and everything you had and were could be just taken away if the person with the shiny crown wished it or some back alley ripper would stab you dead for your pocket lint alone.
SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 9 months ago
Yeah, because countries outside US don’t exist. And they everyone there is dying of illegal gun violence. No wait, US has one of the highest rate of death from gun violence. It’s also one of the most unsafe countries in the western world. Makes you think…
fosforus@sopuli.xyz 9 months ago
Are you claiming that violence doesn’t serve a purpose?
SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 9 months ago
Yes, but gun regulation has historically been proven more effective than gun against gun protection. For example, Australia’s NFA in 1996.
scarabic@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Violence stopping violence. You have an interesting way of getting the world completely wrong.
scarabic@lemmy.world 9 months ago
A toaster and ladder have constructive applications.