So the solution would be to have Esperanto but with the phonetics of, say, Hawaiian?
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rockerface@lemmy.cafe 12 hours ago That still makes it a poor tool for global communication. Within EU, maybe. But not global. More than half of global population is going to have to learn a dozen of new sounds and distinctions in pronunciation to even start.
acockworkorange@mander.xyz 8 hours ago
- rockerface@lemmy.cafe 4 hours ago
Toki pona is an interesting example, though it’s not an international auxiliary language. But it still relies on a simplistic phonetic inventory and limited core vocabulary to make communication as easy as possible.
aeiou@piefed.social 4 hours ago
not an international auxiliary language
Hasn’t stopped people from trying to hammer it into one (i.e kokanu)
- rockerface@lemmy.cafe 4 hours ago
I’m just saying that’s not the author’s intention, it’s more of an experiment to see how minimalistic you can make a constructed language. On the other hand, simplicity is good for an international language, so who knows, maybe something derived from toki pona can actually do the job.
Mac@mander.xyz 10 hours ago
I personally think we should use grunts and gestures
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Boppel@feddit.org 12 hours ago
one could of course try to make an easier or better suited language but calling it a poor tool is harsh critique considering that esperanto is the most sucessful attempt for an artificial global language today and already avoids many hard to learn features from other languages.
trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works 9 hours ago
Why even make a language, if there are plenty of existing languages to choose from?
Just pick the most widely understood one and you’re done.
trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
One problem in international relationships is that native speakers of the language that is used will always be able to express themselves better than others and will thus have an advantage in debates and discussions. The original idea was that everyone should learn Esperanto as a second language which would level the field and improve international relations.
Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 8 hours ago
Any natural language is way harder than Esperanto.
- rockerface@lemmy.cafe 12 hours ago
What can I say, the bar isn’t high. It avoids some hard to learn features but introduces others, mostly in the phonetics and orthography.
Boppel@feddit.org 12 hours ago
i guess i can agree on that. i still would like an artificial easy to learn global language.
- rockerface@lemmy.cafe 12 hours ago
Oh, don’t get me wrong, I still think Esperanto was an amazing attempt at a global communication tool. It just didn’t age that well, in my opinion. And the whole concept of an artificial global language is still something that should be pursued.
trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
Even just within the EU, interligua would be a much better alternative. That one has specifically been designed for use in the EU though, and not for global communication.
timestatic@feddit.org 4 hours ago
Not really possible to make a language everyone is familiar with as languages globally are so different.