Comment on Car dealers say they can’t sell EVs, tell Biden to slow their rollout
Bell@lemmy.world 11 months ago
EVs require much less maintenance…dealers make much of their money from… maintenance! So they mark up the sale price to compensate for their lost revenue.
The solution is selling cars without dealerships, but our helpful state legislatures have made that illegal in many states.
Exusia@lemmy.world 11 months ago
And you need a safe place to charge it. Like a garage. I can’t afford a house so why would I buy a Nissan leaf (any cheap ev)? I can’t just run an extention cord out an open window. I also can’t just leave a wireless geoud pad charger plugged in unattended outside. It’s all linked, nothing happens in a bubble.
AA5B@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I don’t know about other chargers but my Tesla charger is designed for outside use and can be configured to only allow my car to charge
spongebue@lemmy.world 11 months ago
The J1772 protocol is very basic and does not communicate any car identifier back to the charge unit, so it wouldn’t know what it’s plugged into (other than “something”)
Exusia@lemmy.world 11 months ago
And you just…trust other tenants to not just walk off with it?
BitSound@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’m not worried about that, but I’ve seen some more cautious people get the cable underneath one of their wheels so that you’d have to move the car to take it. I’m quite sure you could also find another way of attaching or securing it to your car to make it fairly difficult to walk away with. The chargers also aren’t really worth much, so it seems unlikely that even someone desperate for cash would put much effort into it.
AA5B@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It helps to have your own home, and my area doesn’t have much vandalism
My charger is not detachable and is not especially valuable in itself, so I think of it more as vandalism than theft. Someone might vandalize my charger for the metal in the cable, I guess, but I also have an air conditioner compressor outside that I’d expect to be more valuable, if harder to walk away with. As a property owner, there’s always something that could be vandalized, but you need to balance your costs and convenience with what you expect from your neighbors
Nollij@sopuli.xyz 11 months ago
That’s a problem that is pretty easily solved. It can all be solidly affixed to the wall, locked to the vehicle, etc.
Dontfearthereaper123@lemm.ee 11 months ago
R u so paranoid that u think people are gonna steal it? I mean it might happen but I live in quite a rough place and I wouldnt even be worried abt that
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Other wires come in and out of your house. It’s not hard to drill a hole and insulate it.
Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 11 months ago
The person you replied to said they cannot afford a house.
That means they do not own the building in which they live. In most apartment situations, it’s impossible to make infrastructure changes to the building.
Even if a person owns their home, they aren’t just “making a hole” and insulating it. Most home owners don’t know what’s in their walls, how to tell if a wall is safe to drill into, and even fewer know how to properly seal up those holes so they don’t wind up with water ingress when the cheap caulk they slathered on gets ruined by temperatures, the sun, or pests.
Much less that it’s also not merely ‘a cord’ unless you’re fine with being handicapped by slow charging. Installing faster chargers is beyond the scope of most home tinkerers - so that’s even more cost to set up.
wmassingham@lemmy.world 11 months ago
This is exactly what my neighbor does in his apartment.
But he has a driveway, so it’s not like he’s running it over the sidewalk or anything.
KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I smell a solution here: Dealers can offer free charging on their lot (plus optionally a mobile charging service that comes to you) for a monthly fee.
That way, you have a spot to charge in your city that’s never taken, and dealers can make the money they used to make on maintenance, therefore giving them the incentive to actually sell EVs.
RushingSquirrel@lemm.ee 11 months ago
With decent range, you can charge once or twice a week at a fast charger (while doing groceries or posting video games) or there are public chargers every couple of blocks. No need for a home charger (though it’s definitely more convenient).
PraiseTheSoup@lemm.ee 11 months ago
You’ve never left the city, have you?
RushingSquirrel@lemm.ee 11 months ago
When you leave the city, you have your own driveway with your own charger
Rooskie91@discuss.online 11 months ago
I don’t think this is what you meant, but you can charge an EV using a conventional wall outlet.They even have adapters that will allow you to plug it into a 240v outlet (like for a dryer or oven). I’m not saying this makes them more accessible, I still think the upfront cost of owning an EV is too high, but it is possible.,
Dontfearthereaper123@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Why can’t you run an extension cord out an open window? Do u not have windows or something
Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 11 months ago
What if they live on the third floor of an apartment or have to park a block away? It’s not one size fits all.
Dontfearthereaper123@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Ask someone who lives closer it’s what I’d do