Why would this be a USA vs non-USA thing? I’ve only ever heard it mocked here in the states.
I feel like this is matter of personal taste not nationality, but I could be wrong.
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Deebster@infosec.pub 8 months ago
I’m the Worf kind. I suspect that for us non-USA types it’s pretty one-sided.
Ashyr@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Stamets@startrek.website 8 months ago
Why would this be a USA vs non-USA thing?
I have absolutely no idea. Frankly that’s one of the most bizarre takes I’ve seen in sometime. As you pointed out, the theme is relentlessly mocked in the US. By all Trek fans in general, really. Why someone would immediately make this a nationalistic thing I have no idea.
blargerer@kbin.social 8 months ago
It's a very christian sounding song, and I associate that kind of thing with the US. Shrug.
StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 8 months ago
It seems such generic American soft rock. Journey or bands like.
No matter that the singer is British and the song was originally written and recorded by Rod Stewart.
Even having lived in the US as a student, I never could understand the appeal of that stuff.
Norgur@kbin.social 8 months ago
I'm one of those non-USA-types and I actually liked Archerprise. Not as much as the other series of course, but I'll still watch it every now and then.
cam_i_am@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Yeah as an Aussie, faith of the heart comes across as some cringe American power ballad bullshit.
It’s such an insane genre shift from Trek of that era as well. Like how do you have 3 of the most incredible, majestic, orchestral themes from TNG, DS9, and VOY, and decide that what Trek really needs is a Rod Stewart song? It’s bizarre.
Stamets@startrek.website 8 months ago
I’m not going to lie, I find this genuinely hilarious.
So the song was originally written by an American named Diane Warren but that’s where the connection to the United States ends. It was originally written for Rod Stewart, an English artist. The Enterprise version however is performed by Russell Watson. An English artist.
cam_i_am@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Bahaha fair call mate! The other artist who came to mind was Bryan Adams, who it turns out is Canadian so clearly I’m completely full of shit.
Logic and reason aside… Idk it just feels like American fluff to me. To be clear, I don’t mean to hate on American culture with that statement. Every culture has its own vapid, meaningless fluff. God knows Australian culture does!
But something about faith of the heart just feels really, really American to me. Obviously Trek has always been an American show, but it has always seemed to make an effort to be more universal than that. I still remember hearing faith of the heart for the first time and it just felt… foreign. Unrelatable.
And personally I just hate power ballads so that’s my own bias haha. My whole argument is vibes and opinions really, I make zero claim to being correct or even internally consistent on this.
BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Don’t feel bad, your instincts are on point. It’s some apple pie baseball chevy truck american anthem at the stadium bullshit. It’s so american if hurts and Im from the southern US lol
Stamets@startrek.website 8 months ago
Oh don’t get me wrong, i’m not bashing you with that comment. There’s a reason I removed the ‘the call is coming from inside the house’ line. I was doing it in jest and light-hearted banter but you never know how text can come across so I wanted to be safer than sorry.
It does feel pretty American though. I get it. The vibe is definitely there. The song just screams “PATRIOTISM” in a way that is pretty in line with America. Has that whole “I’M THE VERY BEST WE’RE NUMBER 1 NO ONE CAN STOP US” theme throughout it.
I listen to jazz and pop so I mean I’m not exactly someone who is a huge fan of ballads either. Right with you. This song I do like but mostly just for nostalgia purposes I think. The same way I start singing along with Rick Astley whenever Never Gonna Give You Up starts playing.
However, as a Canadian, how fucking dare you mistake Bryan Adams for an American. Awful. Mean. Terrible! Cruel! We can’t be friends.
mrbubblesort@kbin.social 8 months ago
Also regardless of genre, TV theme songs with lyrics eventually start to feel dated, whereas orchestral themes are always timeless.
Zink@programming.dev 8 months ago
American here, completely in agreement on how bizarre it was.