Comment on Interesting how artists don't make enough money from their creations, so our solution is to make certain information illegal to share, rather than give them a universal basic income.

ahal@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Sorry, I meant UBI for everyone, including artists.

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  • ahal@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Ah my bad, then I agree!

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  • Zippy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Would you work harder or longer at your current job if you were paid say an unconditional 1000 per month and if not, how would productively increase to pay for it?

    I will get down voted but no one will have a good answer for this.

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    • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      There’s actual experiments that have been done on this and every experiment has said that people don’t quit their jobs they carry on doing their jobs and they just have a better standard of living than the otherwise would have had.

      It’d be really great if you could actually look this stuff up before making comments

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      • Zippy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Actually Manitoba Canada did one of the biggest experiments and the best that came out of it was productivity fell less than expected. So no your statement does not support that.

        More so this post suggest more people would do things like art which is absolutely suggesting productivity will fall.

        And seriously are you telling me you wouldn’t retire earlier if you were paid a significant amount over your lifetime? I can bs on people working just as hard if they didn’t have to.

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• Kedly@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Pretty sure OP meant UBI for everyone, as in its a much better fight than the fight against AI Art

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• Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  The solution is UBI and then tax incomes. It gives everyone the opportunity to persue goals, and if you make enough extra it is taxes to pay for everyone else to have the same opportunity. Persue art if you wish. If it’s successful you’ll get to pay it forward. You don’t have to struggle to just survive while pursuing those goals.

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  • Zippy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    So if 5 percent of the workforce pursues other endeavors such as the arts or retirees sooner, and certainly people will retire sooner, where do you find the people to take out your garbage when 5 percent of them quit?

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• sock@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  im an upcoming starving artist (graphic designer) we def do not need a UBI for artists specifically my peers will take any excuse to not do anything.

  but a ubi for all would be fire and likely increase productivity in everyway over time.

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  • cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Graphic designers are not part of this. You guys can make a fucking killing designing everything from flyers, billboards, websites and bloody corporate logos.

    I know a few British graphic designers. One made a logo for the US government in 1hr. They gave him $10k for it. He lives in a £1M mansion and works from home maybe 4hrs per day.

    I don’t think I’ve ever met a poor graphic designer.

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• MrSilkworm@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I completely agree on giving UBI to everyone, Imagine a world without artists. Without movies, TV shows, theaters, musicals, museums, books, music, sculpture, paintings, architecture.

  Imagine how dull everything would be, without the creativity and imagination of these people out to use. But nowaday people just say Y0u_sH0uLd_sTuDy_SoMeThInG_t0_hAvE_iNc0mE, ignoring the consequences of the absence of arts

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• Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  My town, in a surprisingly conservative part of Louisiana, has an artist residency. They pay $700/month and supply a studio to 3 artists for 9 months out of the year.

  The hours are whenever the artist has the time (so as not to interfere with their jobs), and the stipulation is that they have to be available twice a month to teach evening classes about their individual style. They have to have enough pieces by the end to fill a show, as determined by the board that assigned them for the year. But there’s no hard number of art pieces required.

  All this to say that it can be done. Even if right now it’s just a few artists a year in one town, the concept is there.

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• bradorsomething@ttrpg.network ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Maybe the UBI is the art? I mean, we’re talking about it, aren’t we?

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