Also required should be YouTube accepting liability for damage done by malicious ads or hacks inhecting malware onto user systems via ad infeastructure.
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florge@feddit.uk 8 months ago
unless it is strictly necessary for the provisions of the requested service. YouTube could quite easily argue that ads fund their service and therefore an adblock detector would be necessary.
postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 8 months ago
rchive@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Why wouldn’t the hacker just be liable instead?
rooster_butt@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Because Google is the one trying to force consumers to raw dog the internet.
Kbin_space_program@kbin.social 8 months ago
Their precedent is that they sold our data for 20 years before this and are now the biggest company in the world, so they can go pound sand.
Steeve@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
In the interest of making criticisms factually correct, they don’t “sell” user data, they make money through targeted advertising using user data. They actually benefit by being the only ones with your data, it’s not in their interest to sell it.
original_reader@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Call me naive, but doing something illegal is never OK in the eyes of the law, whether I deem it necessary or not. I would have to receive a legal exception to the rule, as it were. As it stands, it’s illegal.
14th_cylon@lemm.ee 8 months ago
doing something illegal is never OK in the eyes of the law
yeah, doing something illegal is illegal, hard to argue with that tautology.
but you seem to be living under the impression that immoral = illegal, which is not the case.
rchive@lemm.ee 8 months ago
I think what they were saying is that the law specifically makes exceptions for things that are necessary. Others are saying ads are not necessary per the law’s definition, but that’s a separate issue.
Nudding@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Saving Jews during the holocaust in Germany was illegal. How naive are you?
Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 8 months ago
That’s a very good point. I’m not very aware of EU regulations, I wonder if there has been established precedent in court
blargerer@kbin.social 8 months ago
Adblock detection has literally already been ruled on though (it needs consent). I'm sure there are nuances above my understanding, but it's not that simple.
Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Do you have a link to the EU requiring consent to detect ad blocking?
Most of what I can find is from the late 2010s but specifically says that consent is not required for adblock detection. adguard.com/…/eu-defines-its-stance-on-ad-blocker…
iabeurope.eu/…/20160516-IABEU_Guidance_AdBlockerD…
But also: I assume consent can be obtained with a mandatory TOS update.
icydefiance@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Blargerer is probably saying that because the Mastodon post OP linked to says “In 2016 the EU Commission confirmed in writing that adblock detection requires consent.”
That, in turn, is probably referring to a letter received from the European Commission by the same person, which you can see here: twitter.com/alexanderhanff/…/722861362607747072
It’s not exactly a “ruling”, but it’s still pretty convincing.
krellor@kbin.social 8 months ago
You consent to their terms of service and privacy policy when you access their website by your continued use. They disclose the collection of browser behavior and more in the privacy policy. I suspect they are covered here but I don't specialize in EU policy.
Naatan@lemdro.id 8 months ago
Their terms of service have to be compliant with local laws though. You can’t just put whatever you want in there and expect it to stand up in court.
krellor@kbin.social 8 months ago
This is true. And I'll disclaim again that I'm not an expert on EU law or policy. But I'm not familiar with a US policy or law that would preclude that consent to collection from being a condition of use. I've written these policies for organizations, and I think it will be a difficult argument to make. I'd love to read an analysis by a lawyer or policy writer who specializes in the EU.
Feathercrown@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I haven’t agreed to any new terms and the adblocker appears for me
Stumblinbear@pawb.social 8 months ago
Assuming it didn’t exist for months or years before this