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Comment on I'm not kidding when I say for the FIRST time I actually can grasp the size
ummthatguy@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Yeah I’m not seeing how there’s several dozen people moving, working, and living in that.
skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 11 months ago
jaybone@lemmy.world 11 months ago
But people mainly occupy the saucer portion right? Like they don’t live in the engines.
Looking at OPs pic, that saucer is very small compared to the container ship.
winterayars@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Oxygen is an issue, but heat generation is also an issue.
JWBananas@startrek.website 11 months ago
Actually the thing they often get wrong in depictions of life support failure is that the ship would get too hot. The vacuum of space insulates the ship.
teft@startrek.website 11 months ago
They sleep in hallways…
skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 11 months ago
[deleted]teft@startrek.website 11 months ago
I don’t know what the hell they’re doing with all that space
After watching discovery I assume it’s all turbolift shafts.
Twipped@artemis.camp 11 months ago
The amount of empty space in Discovery was just weird.
Honytawk@lemmy.zip 11 months ago
Don’t forget the Jeffreys tubes
iyaerP@lemmy.world 11 months ago
AS much as I enjoy some aspects of Lower Decks, that was one of the most phenomenally stupid decisions that they could possibly have made.
The crew sizes for Federation starships are TINY compared to the actual size of the ships. SNW giving every crew member their own studio apartment is something that reflects the ludicrous amount of empty space that a Federation starship has availalbe to it.
If you ever look at the deck plans, there’s just a crazy amount of space that’s unused.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Maybe if they narrowed that hallway a little, they could all have their own quarters.
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 11 months ago
In Strange New Worlds everyone above Ensign apparently has their own studio apartment.
jaybone@lemmy.world 11 months ago
In TNG and Voyager they all did.
grue@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Speaking of which, something funny I noticed about Discovery recently is that Burnham and Tilly continue to be roommates even after
spoiler
Burnham gets her commander rank reinstated
. What’s up with that?
EinfachUnersetzlich@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Who wouldn’t want to room with Tilly though?
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Me, but for all the wrong reasons
Stamets@startrek.website 11 months ago
You’d be stacking people on one another for sure. However the tight quarters then gives creedence to stuff like Cerritos and Voyager not having thick enough walls/doors to dampen sound. Then Enterprise-D is a whole different beast and it makes no sense for the opposite reason. It’s too damn big with not enough crew. You’d have people working in their own section never meeting another soul during their whole day.
But that brings me to something else (because I have severely unmedicated ADHD and I apologize). Picard Season 3 got rapped for having the Titans bridge be really dark all the time. The lighting of the whole ship was way darker. Surprisingly I actually liked that. It felt like they were on a submarine or some small contained vessel, just then against the harshness of what was outside. That submarine quality really should be used in more shows. I know TOS had random people walking around the corridors (like the famous example of a dude who was turning an invisible valve on a wall) but I like those tight spaces.
Oh and to prove the ADHD? The Crossfield class is 900m long. Roughly. I mean she’s 2/3rds nacelle but still.
grue@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Here’s some more perspective. The aircraft carrier pictured apparently carries almost 2000 people.
iyaerP@lemmy.world 11 months ago
That’s not even a big carrier either. American supercarriers between the flight crews, the ship crews, the marine contingent and everything else can fit up to SIX THOUSAND people.
There’s no need for anyone on the Cerritos to sleep in the fucking hallways. That’s like “we live on a literal submarine” level of privacy. It’s beyond idiotic.
samus12345@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Yup, I always assumed it was for comedic effect.
VindictiveJudge@startrek.website 11 months ago
Yep, the Enterprise has about the volume of an aircraft carrier, but only a fraction of the crew. By modern standards it is downright roomy.
iyaerP@lemmy.world 11 months ago
And it also isn’t carrying 100 fighter planes.
FaceDeer@kbin.social 11 months ago
This video has a rendering of the Enterprise D's crew standing in a group on top of the saucer section, to give an intuitive understanding of how ridiculously huge the ship is in comparison.
negativenull@lemm.ee 11 months ago
That was a fascinating video!
CarlsIII@kbin.social 11 months ago
Picard Season 3 got rapped for having the Titans bridge be really dark all the time.
Have these people not seen The Motion Picture?
ummthatguy@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Speaking of submarines, SNW s1e4 Memento Mori does a great job with the “flying blind” trope. They even use the “depth charge” trick.
Stamets@startrek.website 11 months ago
You even get to hear sonar pings. It was amazing as a submarine movie fan.
ummthatguy@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Neato@kbin.social 11 months ago
If we check this image, use the 947' total size, we can estimate the rest of the dimensions. That would put the deck heigh at about 8'. The saucer widest deck lengths at around 450'. Definitely cramped but doable. There's only about 100-150 crew on this version as well. It's essentially a weirdly shaped cruise ship and nearly the size of our world's largest.
SlopppyEngineer@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
This one goes in detail. They’re are a few floors that are just sleeping quarters.
Rud_1UP@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I thought in NG 1000 people lived on it?
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 11 months ago
A container ships crew is 20-30 people, and that whole thing is mostly containers. I bet they’d fit.
ummthatguy@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Oh you.
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