Plex is cracking down on pirated content. They can’t do anything locally (yet) but they sent out a mass email about two weeks ago saying that anyone that hosts a Plex server in the cloud (they didn’t specifically mention Hetzner, but that’s who is largely being affected) will lose access on October 12th.
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Szymon@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
I dust off my wizard hat and robe.
Plex is a great streaming alternative. Cancelling Netflix pays for the upgrade to gigabit Internet. Hard drives are cheaper now than ever. Usenet access remains safe and speedy.
Is that the Jolly Roger coming in to port? Welcome back old friends.
pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 8 months ago
CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 8 months ago
That’s because people were creating their own ‘streaming services’ using pirated content and selling access to it using Hetzner servers, which is very bad for all parties involved because it brings a lot of negative attention when actual profits are being generated from distributing pirated material.
pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Yeah, but it sucks for people like me who just set everything up a few weeks ago and are using it privately. I’ve hosted a massive Plex server locally for about a decade, but finally decided to stop doing everything locally. I had it running for two weeks in the cloud before I got the email from Plex. I just setup Jellyfin yesterday and all of my users will have to migrate to that.
MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 8 months ago
That sucks for you, but you gotta understand Plex there as well I think. They know that all their clients are pirates, but they can’t just ignore something like that, lest risk catching unwanted attention.
avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
People thought hosting copyrighted content on someone’s cloud and making it available to others was a good idea? 🤦🤦♀️🤦♂️
This is why we can’t have nice things.
pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It’s specifically people doing this and selling access to the servers en masse, like these servers have a hundred or more users each. The don’t care about the small fish that are doing this privately for no monetary gain.
avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
I guess it’s all profit-driven. If you can get $5 per month from 100 people, you can probably clear hundreds of dollars per month. So that ten times, and this becomes quite a serious profit stream.
porksoda@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Plex is cracking down on pirated content.
I’m just as jaded and cynical as the next guy, but I think that this is a mischaracterization of that email. People were hosting Plex servers with thousands of users and terabytes of pirated content on Hetzner and selling access. I don’t read them taking action as a signal for them blocking local libraries in the future.
pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 8 months ago
They all do it just to get the lawyers off their backs. Plex is just a bigger target. Plex can’t block anything locally so they take action against user distributing pirated content on a cloud service and are like “Here, we took action, can you leave us alone now?”. It would practically be impossible for them to block the distribution of pirated content at the local level.
Plex fucked up when they created their Client-Server model because it allows traffic to run through their servers (the Plex Relay and their “phone home” model). This makes them legally responsible for “facilitating access to pirated content” even though they don’t host the content. Jellyfin doesn’t have this pitfall since you host everything yourself, they just provide the software.
You’re the second person that says " Plex isn’t cracking down on pirated content… but they’re banning people who are hosting servers with pirated content." If that’s not " cracking down on pirated content" IDK what is…
m0nky@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
[deleted]lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 8 months ago
Sorry I don’t buy it. It stinks of puppeting for rights holders. I moved to Jellyfin as soon as that story broke. I’ve been a Plex pass user for over 10 years (albeit lifetime single purchase) and the only thing I miss is in-TV subtitle search.
pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Plex’s (almost) entire user base is pirates, it’s the same with Kodi, Emby and Jellyfin. I don’t know of anyone that has legally ripped all of their DVDs and Blu-rays themselves, it’s just too much of a pain in the ass, and I know multiple people that have run servers for years.
Plex is just covering their own asses from getting sued for “enabling the distribution of pirated content”. Kodi and Jellyfin aren’t big targets since they aren’t a business, they don’t sell a product, Plex (and Emby) does.
Instead of Plex blocking the specific users based on email, specific IP or something else specific to that account, they said “fuck anyone using Hetzner, regardless of whether or not you’re violating our ToS.”
I’ve paid for a lifetime PlexPass and have actually paid for it a few times over since it took years before I finally bought one. Yet, I get treated like I’m some mega-pirate making money off of them. They don’t give a shit about their users, all they care about is money and not getting sued.
TheDarkKnight@lemmy.world 8 months ago
That’s their entire userbase. Bold call haha
pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Yeah, people act like Plex and other media servers are used for legally obtained content only. Plex is just covering their asses and they can’t block users hosting locally so this is a “here we did something, are you happy now?” to the copyright lawyers.
DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
Gotta sell out to get more VC cash somehow /s
Szymon@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Good to know, hopefully this creates a drive to make alternatives a little more user friendly to set up
pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It’s easy to setup remote access to Jellyfin… once you know what you’re doing. I’ve been doing it for years, and just recently gave Caddy a try as my reverse proxy and it literally takes 3 lines of code to create a SSL secured reverse proxy (literally just Jellyfin.yourfqnd.com { reverse_proxy Jellyfin:8096}).
I’ve written a docker compose file for each of my categories of apps on my server: Plex, Jellyfin, Admin apps, and Pirating. The Caddy config file is simple so I just copy that to its app directory. My DNS and my CNAME records are already set.
So after a bit of work writing the aforementioned scripts I can have my entire setup on a new server in about 5 minutes and one command.
IDK if docker-compose works on Windows, but I’m happy to share it if you run Linux.
Ringmasterincestuous@aussie.zone 8 months ago
Haha I’ve been scrolled down this thread and read these wholesome helpful comments and look up and it’s been you each time!!
Cut that shit out!!
👏 well done you beautiful soul 👍
flames5123@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Yep. Finally got Radarr and Sonarr with overseerr setup this summer because I need a GUI solution for my family. It’s been working pretty great so far!
HeyMrDeadMan@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I have the same but the one thing I can’t get working is accessing overseer from outside the network (ie internet). I’ve read guides of course but at some point they start talking about domains and certificate signing and I start to have a siezure.
pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Look into Caddy, it’s by far the easiest web server/reverse proxy with automatic SSL support out there. Setup both Caddy and Overseer in Docker and then just simply write
[code] overseer.yourdomain.com { reverse_proxy overseer:overseer port } [/code]
Assuming you have you own domain name and have DNS records setup.
I was using Nginx and Let’s Encrypt for years but it was a bit of a pain in the ass. I just rewrote my entire Docker Compose script to use Caddy so I can deploy everything in about 5 minutes.
kaitco@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Any thoughts on using something like Caddy, or any other reverse proxy option, if you already have a VPN that you pay for?
Currently I’m using Tailscale for my phone and tablet, but there’s not really an option for Roku outside of my home network. I’d like to give a friend access to my Jellyfin, but I can’t seem to get anything working other than Tailscale because I already pay for ProtonVPN.
cor315@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I just set up a VPN with wire guard and duckdns. Connected my phone and works great. Some one will mention a show and I’ll pull out my phone and add it via overseer. Get it on plex in like 2 minutes.
lukewarmtuna@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Cloudflare zero trust tunnels are your answer
rizoid@midwest.social 8 months ago
Is there any links/guides on how to get into the usenet side of things? I’ve been using torrents forever but people keep saying usenet is safer.
Szymon@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Google/learn about/consider these things
VPN Usenet provider (i.e. EasyNews) Usenet indexers (i.e. NZBgeek) Usenet client (i.e. NZBget) Managing your library (Sonarr, Radar, Prowlarr, Filebot)
Media server & streaming (i.e. Plex, Jellyfin)
I watch through my firestick or android phones
I might be missing something, but there are lots of guides once you figure out what you’re looking for. A little technical know-how makes things go smoother and faster though.
rizoid@midwest.social 8 months ago
Thanks for the info. I’ve got. Sonarr radarr and prowlarr set up with qbitt right now and jellyfin. I’ll have to do some digging this weekend.
Maximilious@kbin.social 8 months ago
Worth mentioning that NZBget is no longer in development. It still works but there is a fork out of a new client someone is developing. I can't recall the name but easily findable. This would be the equivalent of your torrent client.
It's nearing year end and you can get end of year deals soon on providers and indexers so off hold off until November\December. I think I got a lifetime NZBGeek membership last year for like $100 or something. It was my first time doing usenet but I actually switched my instances to use usenet indexers first over torrent indexers its that good.
Szymon@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
There’s a few recent guides on Reddit that discuss this and automation. I got access to some private torrent trackers this year, but haven’t touched them since I got my Usenet subscription. I’ve been waiting decades for it to be this easy once you get it set up.
danc4498@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Also, what makes Usenet safer?
CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 8 months ago
Running a VPN makes torrenting just as safe and you’ll be paying a subscription fee for Usenet so it’s a wash in my opinion.
DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
I second this and I’m in the same boat as you
DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
Got any names in particular? I’ve been looking at Usenet for a long long time and I think I’m going to finally get serious about it
Szymon@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Sure, check through this comment thread as a few have already been mentioned.
DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
I will take a second look!
evanuggetpi@lemmy.nz 8 months ago
Stremio + Real Debrid is worth investigating.
Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Worth checking out Jellyfin as well
Jarmer@slrpnk.net 8 months ago
I MUCH prefer Jellyfin to Plex. Jellyfin seems to have active development whereas Plex is more interested in adding in a ton of “features” (aka garbage) that I never ever wanted and continues to leave YEARS old bugs out in the wild. I think it won’t be long until Plex enshittifies itself to death. They clearly have a financial situation that is not aligned with its users.
GreenMario@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Plex has a client on my TV and Xbox. How would I watch Jellyfin content on those?
I say this a guy that got his RasPi3 Plex server running just good and stable a year ago and doesn’t touch it except to cycle in new content.
mark3748@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
You could use Emby instead. Jellyfin is the FOSS version of Emby and Emby has apps for everything. I moved to Emby from Plex five years ago or so and it’s been great.
Camilo@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
In the worst case scenario, you can access it via browser and then bookmark it.
I do that on my tv for which almost no apps can be installed and found no issues so far. Even HDR media plays, which I found that it is (or was?) a paid feature on Plex
Szymon@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
I agree, I’ll give the software another try once I have more free time to learn and troubleshoot
mammut@lemmy.world 8 months ago
EeeDawg101@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Infuse is only $10 per year and that includes on your Apple TV and iPhone. It really is quite slick and looks really good.
obinice@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Unfortunately, there’s no Jellyfin application on my TV, or I’d swap :-(
Szymon@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
I tried but the technical gap from Plex to Jellyfin was too intense for me to try and make work at this time of my life. Plex works well for my purposes and I paid for the phone apps when needed ($6 per device I think).
Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Yeah for sure, didn’t mean to imply folks shouldn’t use Plex just giving it a shout out as an alternative. I’ve used both and they are both pretty awesome. One of my friends set up a seed box with Jellyfin so I kinda cheated in leaving the tinkering to them but I don’t think it was too bad with the provider they went with.
BolexForSoup@kbin.social 8 months ago
Exact same thing happened to me, i just couldn’t get it to consistently work.
MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 8 months ago
I can’t for the life of me get HW encoding working with Jellyfin. Plex was just plug and play.
i7-11800H
three@lemm.ee 8 months ago
worth checking out until you get to the cry for developers that they posted yesterday. fuck switching my media serving to a dying platform