Grapheneos is surprisingly the most easy OS to install… The issue is most phone manufacturer’s dont meet Grapheneos its standards.
Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 1 month ago
Now if only GrapheneOS was easy to install on cheap Android devices.
kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I agree, but isn’t that just the same way said differently?
it’s not hard to install if you have a phone that follows stringent standards, that only 30% of manufacturers follow…
CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
Cheap android devices don’t have the proper security hardware. Hopefully the Motorola phone is cheaper than a pixel though. Used pixels are also pretty cheap, all things considered.
Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Correction, the oldest supported Pixels that will likely lose support soon are pretty cheap. Everything else was still around $400 when I checked last month.
TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 1 month ago
$400 is pretty cheap for a phone these days.
Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 1 month ago
No, $400 is about $300 more than any phone could ever be worth.
edgemaster72@lemmy.world 1 month ago
$400 is more than I have ever paid for a phone (and no, I never bought a carrier locked subsidized phone). From 2014-2022 I had 3 phones that cost a total of $450. This ain’t it.
0x0@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
I guess Graphene devs don’t care for ewaste.
Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 1 month ago
I'm not interested in using anything with DoubleClick's hooks in it. I'm happy with my $30 Tracfone for most of the features it offers.
CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
Your TracFone will never have the security features required and will always be vulnerable to things like Cellebrite. If it’s an Android phone, you’re also being tracked by several companies.
Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 1 month ago
That's what it is then.I just don't want to deal with the arbitrary nonsense like age-verification and software install limitations. Then again, I only have a phone at all because of my wife. If it were just me, I'd just keep a featurephone in a drawer and maybe check that it's charged once a month. As it stands, I may end up having to give up the small amount of morality I have and just give up on Android and pay a ridiculous amount of money just for phone service.
Blaster_M@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Pixel’s a Google device in design. A used one unlocked, and GrapheneOS, and there is no Google.
Blackfeathr@lemmy.world 1 month ago
And if all banking apps were compatible with it…
CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
Banking apps work for me with exploit compatibility mode enabled.
lemmyng@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Ding ding ding! Don’t even need to enable Play Services in most cases.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 month ago
don’t use a banking app if you enjoy your privacy.
there isn’t a single banking app that isn’t tracking you.
Ulrich@feddit.org 1 month ago
…it is?
just2look@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
They have reached a deal with Motorola, so hopefully there will be more options soon. You can get we used pixels pretty cheap though, and the installation process is very easy.
CMDR_Horn@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I was wondering how this stance will impact that deal. A large company like Motorola would typically seek to comply with laws such as these
just2look@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
I’m hoping they already had the discussion with Motorola about it. I’m assuming Motorola wouldn’t be on the hook legally since Graphene is the OS provider. I could be wrong though.
CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
Yeah, hopefully worst case, Motorola just doesn’t ship them with Graphene (which could be a security risk anyway). Then they’d be off the hook.
Flipper@feddit.org 1 month ago
In the worst case it will just be Motorola shipping their base android version with verification and then just flashing grapheme over it. Just the way it currently works with pixels.
wewbull@feddit.uk 1 month ago
Remember Motorola phones are made by Lenovo which is now an Indian company.
pipes@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
You mean Chinese? With an ever bigger presence in India I’m sure
Railcar8095@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Irrelevant. They need to comply with the laws of the market they are selling at.
Check what pornhub decided to do in Texas
Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 1 month ago
Pixel is the brand name from DoubleClick. I've got no interest. Plus, it's a pain to put them on Tracfone, so I've got net-negative interest.
CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
It’s not just a pain, it’s basically impossible to install Graphene to a TracFone because you’d have to build it all yourself, and then still be vulnerable anyway. I also doubt that you could even get it to properly build for TracFone.