Training boys to be douchebags is why this is happening.
Comment on 40% of teenage boys believe women lie about domestic and sexual violence: new research
Fleur_@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
Read the comments in this thread, read this:
“Social research has shown boys and men increasingly feel alienated, humiliated or uncertain about their place in the world.”
We just need to call young men stupid one more time guys and gender equality will be achieved. No wonder they feel their being lied to.
UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
Fleur_@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
Yeah they’re being courted by the far right because the far right aren’t calling them idiots. Really not that hard to grasp.
njm1314@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The far right are calling them idiots which is the weird thing. You ever pay attention to how those influencers speak to them? They basically neg these kids.
Fleur_@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
Good point, I would be interested in learning more about that. I feel like it may be because the insult is always a precursor to their actual message. For example “you’re a loser with no girlfriend, but it’s because women only respect alpha males. Here’s how you become one…” It uses their insecurity to sell them misogyny and right wing ideology. I think structurally different to and mentally easier to accept than how a man might be insulted from a left wing perspective. Example: “you’re a loser with no girlfriend because you’re an incel who hates women.”
Objectively the left wing one is closer to the truth and heeding its advice would be more likely to socialise them and put them on the path of finding love and companionship, but it’s pretty obvious to see which of the two a young inexperienced and insecure man would be more likely to follow.
UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
I see. They are douchebags because people observed they are douchebags. That makes sense, if you are a fucking moron.
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 3 weeks ago
People who are treated like outcasts behave like outcasts.
Fleur_@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
If you didn’t think I was already a moron why would you call me one? Are you really incapable of seeing how difficult it is for me to engage constructively with your argument while you are constantly interweaving it with personal attacks? I couldn’t ask for a better example of how calling people dumb makes it hard for them to engage with their ideas. Again, no wonder young men with no experience are being entrapped by the far right.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 2 weeks ago
They’re not even being courted by the “far right” - they’re just being pushed away from the left, by the left.
Whoever would have thought that calling people names, attacking them, etc simply for existing and daring to not bow to your ideology is not the way to make friends and get people on your side? Incredible.
Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
‘Teenage boys should get to say wildly misogynistic things with no social repercussions’ is absolutely not how you wind up with men who have normal relationships with women.
running_ragged@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Or…. ‘Teenage boys repeating the lies they been told by only group not shaming them for existing.’
They are victims of the circumstances, but because they are male, too many people act like its it’s okay to blame them.
Fleur_@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
Who said that?
UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
Some moron on kbin.
Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
today’s letter is M, for Moron
apparently
Cypher@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
The number of people jumping in to call adolescent boys morons for having a slightly higher response rate to a very poorly framed question is ridiculous.
The idiots here are the people who wrote the survey.
Of course women lie about domestic violence.
They lie to protect themselves. They lie out of fear.
Some women, though a vanishingly small minority, lie to weaponise the legal system against their partner.
Labelling this acknowledgment of reality, which has nuance to it, as extremist is just going to make more young men hostile to feminism.
Fleur_@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
Yeah from how it has been worded “has there ever been a woman that lies about sexual assault” is a valid interpretation of the prompt and unsurprisingly anyone interpreting it that way will answer “yes, absolutely.” Who knows how many of those people actually harbour misogynistic beliefs though.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
what qualifies as a misogynistic belief? we have to be clear about that.
in 2026 there lots of people who think and argue that women and men having equal rights is misogynistic. like i believe that, and i say that, and i have had people in real life, tell me I’m a misogynistic piece of shit for thinking that. because their POV is that women deserve more rights than men, either to ‘right history’s wrongs’ or because they think women are inherently disadvantaged/inferior to men and must be ‘boosted’.