Comment on Motorola confirms GrapheneOS support for a future phone, bringing over features

• ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Contactless payment will not happen under grapheneOS, it relies on google play services and integrity check. Graphene does have sandboxed play services, but it doesn’t pass integrity check.

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  • QuizzaciousOtter@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    That’s not true. Google Pay (or Wallet?) doesn’t work on GrapheneOS. NFC and contactless payments work perfectly fine. You can use Curve Pay or in Poland BLIK via bank apps.

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    • ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      OK, none of these are supported where I live…so YMMV

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      • Anivia@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        As much as I hate PayPal, this is probably your only option for NFC payments on GrapheneOS then

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  • ibot@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Contactless payments does not need to be Google Pay. There are alternatives.

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    • jode@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      What are those alternatives…?

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      • cabbage@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Gaël Duval, the lead developer behind /e/OS, has been recommending an app called Zettle on his blog. It at least work on degoogled /e/OS, probably GrapheneOS as well. I have no personal experience as I prefer sticking to cards.

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      • ibot@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        The most famous one is probably PayPal. But I assume for people who are privacy focused, that would be not the first choice.

        There is Curve Pay, but I know nothing about it besides the fact that it exists.

        Samsung Pay exists, but it only works on Samsung devices and therefore is not really an alternative in this case.

        And then there are some regional options. Here in Germany are same banks that offer their own payment apps, most famously the Sparkassen. I heard there are also some Indian and east Asian payment apps, but I don’t know much about them.

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  • vodka@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Using contactlenses nfc payment on my grapheneos phone almost daily.

    Just not Google Wallet.

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    • torubrx@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      What are you using? It’s the only google thing I haven’t been able to terminate (and play services, for now)

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      • vodka@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        In a lot of European countries there are local payment apps that work as alternatives. Some banks even have payment support in their own apps.

        Check your local market for alternatives, though if your market is the US then there probably isn’t any.

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  • Deceptichum@quokk.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    That’s a deal breaker for me, I haven’t carried a physical card of any sort in years.

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    • fernandofig@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Same here, and unfortunately there is no digital wallet providers in my country other than Google Pay, Samsung Pay and Apple Pay.

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      • Squizzy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Curve pay allows the creation of a card linked to a bank card

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  • Squizzy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    GooglePay does Graphene is very capable of contactless payment.

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• fernandofig@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Does GrapheneOS support Google Pay?

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  • tabular@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Probably not if it depends on Google Pain Services?

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  • dracs@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    It’s the other way around. Google specifically blocks Goodlgle Pay being used on GrapheneOS. I believe there’s another contactless payment app called Curve or something that works on GrapheneOS. Requires Google Play Services installed though.

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  • vodka@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    No.

    But third party payment apps might work. I’m using one for contactless payments and it works just fine.

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  • Squizzy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    No but nfc is present and nfc contactless pay works if your banking app has it native in their app. Curve pay is a good workaround.

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  • hateisreality@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Yup, it uses a sandboxed version that you can control.

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    • ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      It supports google play services, but google pay does not work on graphene.

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