Comment on DVDs are the new vinyl records: Why Gen Z is embracing physical media

LittleBorat3@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• GarboDog@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  DVD is perfectly fine resolution, not everyone even has a 4K screen or TV. Most people still have 720x1080 or 1080x1920p screens or TVs. Our tv personally is 720x1080 and it looks just fine.

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  • LittleBorat3@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    That’s a 15 year old TV at least and of course you don’t see a difference on that. My 4k is at least 6 years old. If I bought one now I would not be able to buy lower res.

    DVD is pal or ntsc and if you played that on a monitor the picture is as small as phone. It’s like the lowest SVGA res

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  • brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Way too many DVDs are interlaced/telecined though.

    Or worse, some hellish combination through the producers editing mixed stuff together. It makes scaled footage, panning, and some motion look really awful once you notice it.

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  • Sludgeyy@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Distance and size makes the most difference.

    If you’re sitting ~7’ back from a 50" TV it really doesn’t matter if it’s 720, 1080, 4k, or 8k.

    You have to be right up on it to tell or have a huge screen.

    Nicer TVs do have better color and contrast that you can tell from any distance. But generally you have to have something to compare it to for it to really matter. Dark scenes on a poor quality TV can look awful.

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    • brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Dark scenes on a poor quality TV can look awful.

      But many times they’re encoded dreadfully anyway, and DVDs tend to be better in this respect.

      Interlacing is awful though.

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  • scala@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I found out the hard way that 4k Blu-ray need a special player. That it won’t work on Ps2/PS3/PS4 I already have. Only "regular blue-ray play on those.

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    • ZephyrXero@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah, you need a PS5 to play ultras. But what’s even dumber is neither 4 nor 5 can play regular old music CDs

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    • NoDignity@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      UHD blu-rays didn’t even come out until 2016 which is years after any of the devices you listed. Also the discs themselves hold twice as much data as a regular blu-ray so it makes sense that playstations released before it even existed don’t have drives capable of reading the discs.

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  • Sam_Bass@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Heck CRTs were standard at 480p and nobody had any problems

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    • Decq@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      People did have problems, there just wasn’t an (affordable) alternative. If you would go back to the 70/80’s and offered anyone the choice between 480p and 1080p, all else being equal. Would anyone pick 480? I know I wouldn’t

      It’s not because we learned to live with it or didn’t know better, that it was the best option.

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      • Sam_Bass@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I lived through the 70s and 80s. Didn’t know what 480p even was til the 90s, so I have direct experience with CRT usage. Bonus: we didn’t even have a color TV til the mid 80s at my house

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    • LittleBorat3@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      People had 56k modems and no one had any problems, my Gameboy was monochrome and you saw nothing in the sun, no problems there either…

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• jj4211@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  It’s a bit trickier last time I did it to be confident I can rip a Blu-Ray.

  I actually don’t want to juggle discs to watch stuff, I like the general concept of streaming, but I don’t like paying eternally for it, for shows to jump between providers and for my access to cut out part way through and/or even if I have the new service, my progress being forgotten so I have to try to look for where I left off.

  So I want to rip content. DVDs are always dead simple. As I rip blu-rays, MakeMKV is kind of a hassle, it wants to expire itself all the time, and like right this second the place to update from seems down. Maybe someone will comment with some easy way to rip blu ray that internet search doesn’t make obvious.

  If folks sway me, might go buy a 4k friendly Blu Ray drive and hop to it.

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  • FG_3479@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    MakeMKV is the easiest way. The license key is always in the forum.

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  • ecvanalog@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I thought a BD duplicator. Multiple drives, just put the professional disc in the top and a blank in one or more of the others. Obviously blanks are less resilient than pressed discs but it’s a backup and I didn’t need to have specialized skills to do it.

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    • jj4211@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Eh, I’m not really interested in disc based copies, really the disc is there for ripping and then stored, jellyfin to stream it to watch as I please. Once ripped then I can handle the resultant file nice and easy.

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• Nalincah@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  What? DVD is perfectly fine

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  • SomethingBurger@jlai.lu ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    What? VHS is perfectly fine. I don’t even have a color TV

    This is how you sound BTW. 4k or even 1080p is objectively better than DVDs’ 480p. There is no reason to still use them other than cost or being a contrarian.

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  • Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It’s a little fuzzy, but that’s OK on a lot of older movies (especially lower budget ones) because they were always a little fuzzy to start with.

    You can have all the pixels you want, but you’re not going to get a lot of extra detail out of Critters or Masters of the Universe.

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    • LittleBorat3@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Many old movies that are restored perfectly. Yes it’s a lot of film grain but you can also see a lot in the background etc. Also id rather have the film grain.

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    • dustyData@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Oh boy, they weren’t fuzzy. Some film outclass the clarity and sharpness of modern OLED, even when et was B category low budget, just that most people watched a 4 week old piece of film in bumfuck middle of nowhere cinema. With a scratched up and badly calibrated focus lens and dirty and deteriorated film over a dirty screen.

      Anyways, the biggest problem that physical media solves is not the number of pixels, but the bitrate. Tons of information, specially about color, is lost to streaming compression. Pixel density equation means that the quality of what you see is rarely distinguishable between 1080p, 2k and 4k, depending on how far away you sit from the screen and how big it is. For the typical seating accommodation at home and commercial theaters, you won’t notice a significant change within FHD and UHD. However, you can definitely tell the difference between the 10Mbps (down to as little as 2Mbps if your connection sucks) 4k that you get from Netflix and the steady 32Mbps that Blu-ray can give you.

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• Katana314@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  My libraries still lend out a lot of DVDs. I ended up getting Fallout S1 in that format, and while it was a resolution drop, it was perfectly bearable.

  I can guess for the audience using discs, a lot still have archaic hardware to play them on.

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