Comment on Car Wash Test on 53 leading AI models: "I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?"

myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• RobertoOberto@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  You should consider reading the article before “just sayin.”

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• Hazzard@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  They also polled 10,000 people to compare against a human baseline:

  Turns out GPT-5 (7/10) answered about as reliably as the average human (71.5%) in this test. Humans still outperform most AI models with this question, but to be fair I expected a far higher “drive” rate.

  That 71.5% is still a higher success rate than 48 out of 53 models tested. Only the five 10/10 models and the two 8/10 models outperform the average human. Everything below GPT-5 performs worse than 10,000 people given two buttons and no time to think.

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  • Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    This here is the point most people fail to grasp. The AI was taught by people. And people are wrong a lot of the time. So the AI is more like us than what we think it should be. Right down to it getting the right answer for all the wrong reasons. We should call it human AI. Lol.

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    • NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Like I said the person above, there is no wrong answer. Its all about assumptions. It is a stupid trick question that no one would ask.

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      • Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Well I did interview at Microsoft once a long time ago. They did ask some stupid questions… lol

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  • myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Can they do to samplings for that? One in a city with a decent to good education system. The other in the backwoods out in the middle of nowhere…where family trees are sticks.

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  • architect@thelemmy.club ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    The question is based on assumptions. That takes advanced reading skills. I’m surprised it was 71% passing, to be honest.

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    • Hazzard@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      What assumptions do you mean? I’ve seen a few people say that, but I don’t actually understand what they’re referring to. Here’s the text of the question posed in the article:

      I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?

      The question specifically notes they want to wash their car, so that part isn’t left to assumption. Even if you don’t assume an automatic car wash, would you assume they have a 50m hose? Or that you could plausibly walk that far away with something from the car wash to wash your car?

      Personally, I’d agree with the assessment of the article, that the only plausible way to get the question “wrong” would be to focus too much on the short distance, missing/forgetting that the purpose of the trip requires you to have the car at the destination. (Not too surprising that 30% of people did lol)

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• Gestrid@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Those humans used AI to answer the question.

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• NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  What is the wrong answer though? It is a stupid question. I would look at you sideways if you asked me this, because the obvious answer is “walk silly, the car is already at the car wash”. Otherwise why would you ask it?

  Which is telling because when asked to review the answer, the AI’s that I have seen said, you asked me how you were going to get to the car wash. Assumption the car was already there.

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  • MBech@feddit.dk ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Why would the car already be at the car wash if you ask it wether or not you should drive there?

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    • humanspiral@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      AI tech bros have more than 1 car? Doesn’t everybody? Or do you drive your Ferrari everywhere?

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    • architect@thelemmy.club ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      This is why it’s a bad question to test a computer with.

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    • NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Why wouldn’t it be? How often have you thought, I wonder if I should drive my car to the carwash, maybe I should ask someone?

      That’s the thing: it is a nonsensical question, the only sense of it is if YOU need to get where the carwash and car is because you must be asking about something else.

      I am not saying AI is making any sense, it cant. But if you follow the weights and statistics towards the solution for this question, it is about something else other than driving the car to the car wash, because nothing in the training would have ever spelled that out.

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• eronth@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Yeah I straight up misread the question, so I would have gotten it wrong.

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