Comment on ‘Manfluencers’ are filming themselves trying to pick up women using smart glasses

shads@lemy.lol ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• uninvitedguest@piefed.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What does “picked the bear” mean?

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  • MagicShel@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If you are a woman alone in the woods, would you rather come across an unknown man, or a bear? It’s a thought experiment. As a human woman, which represents a greater immanent threat?

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    • NOT_RICK@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Are there non human women?

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      • Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        See Pam Bondi.

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    • XeroxCool@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      as a human woman, which represents a greater imminent threat?

      No. This is NOT the takeaway. The bear is clearly the statistically-imminent threat (let’s say a brown bear to ensure it’s hostile and deadly). The point is that you know exactly what the bear will try to do: kill you. You don’t have to greet it, you don’t have to worry about it’s intentions, you don’t have to worry that your social interaction may push the bear over the edge, you don’t have to worry about hurting it’s feelings and risk making it a threat, you don’t have to worry about sending mixed signals, you don’t have to worry about your clothing choice, and you certainly, certainly don’t have to worry about it raping you without witnesses. It simply is a violent threat. You use bear spray and hope you can run far enough, fast enough. You don’t get to make that immediate reaction to a man, between compassion for the innocent, societal pressure to not ostracize men, and legal repercussions if you get it wrong.

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    • angrystego@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s not really a thought experiment, though. It’s a hyperbole, a funny way to say women are afraid of the toxic masculinity types.

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    • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The question always struck me as dumb. Because it doesn’t make any attempt to clarify what geographic region this question takes place.

      I don’t care what you’re afraid of a man doing, a polar bear is ALWAYS the worse choice.

      But not all bears are as aggressive as polar bears. Some bears will run away from you if you chase them. Some bears will end you if you chase them.

      Of coarse you can’t determine how dangerous a man is based on region. But you can likely determine which regions have dangerous bears.

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      • MagicShel@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Without wading into all the technicalities, could we perhaps agree that if you have to say, “what kind of bear tho’,” that we are already in troubling territory?

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      • atomicorange@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Do polar bears occupy habitat that could realistically be called “the woods”?

        I always assumed this question was referring to a brown bear - black bears are pussies and polar bears are instadeath. Pandas are adorable, obviously better than meeting a man. Other species are unlikely for most english speaking people to meet in the woods. Brown bears are the only species that make this question interesting.

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      • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It presumes black bear. You’re over thinking it.

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    • totally_human_emdash_user@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s a stupid thought experiment, though, because I think that woman who chose the bear have not seriously considered the possibility that it might be a polar bear!

      (Like, if it’s a regular bear then you are probably fine, but you have to think about the worst case scenario here!)

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      • forrgott@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Wow are you entirely missing the point.

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      • Kellenved@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Polar bears do not live in the woods

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    • poopkins@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’ve always thought this is such a generalist scenario, meant to deliberately portray all men as dangerous and categorically make them look bad. Imagine we swapped out “men” for another group of people.

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      • petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        meant to deliberately portray all men as dangerous

        If this were true, wouldn’t it be dead simple for women to just pick the man? It’s interesting that a lot don’t, right?

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      • ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        If you actually listened to the reasoning that women gave (crazy, right?), they were very clear that with a bear, you know where you stand, but with men, you can’t tell right away whether they’re a danger or pretending to be nice only to be harmful later on.

        Any men who get offended by this fact is part of the problem.

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