Okay so I actually read the code just now, unlike you, and now I know what that list is for. It’s not a ban. You wanna hear what the list is for?
If the code is bad, you realise only coders would notice it from reading that? That’s what makes it particularly insidious. The people who didn’t read the code have no idea what they’re in for.
What hardcoded bans are you referring to here? The 4chan one that can be disabled?
How about this one? ‘enoughmuskspam’ and ‘political_weirdos’ are hardcoded banned.
Also “can be disabled” does not excuse hardcoded filtering. If they’re serious they could implement a config system in an hour.
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 3 weeks ago
BB84@mander.xyz 3 weeks ago
I know what the code is for. And I know that your instance manually exempted the block for ‘memes’ (or perhaps your instance imported the memes community before the block came in place, idk).
Can you view any ‘piracy’ or ‘enoughmuskspam’ community on your instance? I can’t
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 3 weeks ago
Try !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com from MULTIVERSE again, I just subscribed to it. You can’t manually trigger federation if you don’t have an account on MULTIVERSE. Thanks for the recommendation, I definitely want piracy on My instance. But I won’t be subscribing to the Musk community, I’ve had enough of that Nazi.
By the way, I use capitalised pronouns in all three grammatical persons.
And there’s no block on memes or piracy or the space pedophile. I can tell you what that code actually does if you ask. It doesn’t block federation to the communities.
BB84@mander.xyz 3 weeks ago
Just to confirm, did You find the ‘piracy’ comm in the search menu (like I was trying to)? Or did You have to manually type in the URL and subscribe first for it to federate?
If You found it in the search menu, then my understanding of the code must be wrong. In that case would You please explain.
PS: The musk community is against musk. Apologies about not using Your pronouns earlier.
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 3 weeks ago
Memes is a banned url, huh? Okay, let’s test this scientifically. After I make this comment, I’m gonna go to !memes@lemmy.world and see if I get any posts.
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 3 weeks ago
Woah, I see lots of posts on !memes@lemmy.world, and some of them have more than a thousand upvotes. I guess there’s no hardcoded bans on meme communities. You must have misunderstood the code.
Flames5123@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Huh? You just linked a community on lemmy.world. That’s a lemmy instance. The person above you is referring to piefed. You don’t understand the code.
Piefed has all the shit code that bans a bunch of stuff. They also delete your comment if it starts with a gif link. And then put your social score down one. They also block you from downvoting if your votes are negative (more downs than up). There so much dumb shit because there are against actual free speech.
See this for proof: lemmy.ml/comment/23662293
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 3 weeks ago
Me shocked to learn that PieFed (the software I am currently using) will delete My comment if it starts with a gif (like this one does)
Diva@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
The code doesn’t actually parse the markdown in the post at all, so it only censors your comment if it’s a link to common gif hosters, and posted in a way that doesn’t actually render the gif.
It’s laughable because it’s both attempting to be draconian and implemented poorly
fujiwood@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Can you show me Reddits code?
BB84@mander.xyz 3 weeks ago
The version from 10 years ago, yeah. It’s here github.com/reddit-archive/reddit.
There’s a modern and production-ready open source alternative. It’s called Lemmy. You can find the source here github.com/lemmynet/lemmy
Blaze@piefed.zip 3 weeks ago
Lemmy is missing several features that Piefed has had for more than a year now: https://piefed.zip/post/1008300#comment_3561702
BB84@mander.xyz 3 weeks ago
Did you put the right URL? That URL links to a comment about the 4-chan image blocking and reputation loss.
If this is the feature you consider to be missing from Lemmy, then yes, please let it remain missing. I definitely don’t want anything like it.
Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 3 weeks ago
obviously not that “hardcoded” since piefed.zip can access these things just fine
https://piefed.zip/c/enoughmuskspam@lemmy.worldhttps://piefed.zip/c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.comBB84@mander.xyz 3 weeks ago
Hardcoded means the filter is in the source code (as opposed to being in a config file or database). Whether or not it can be disabled/circumvent is irrelevant.
Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 3 weeks ago
irrelevant when it can be disabled anyways
lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 3 weeks ago
Defaults matter. We always complain about that when it comes to eg.: Firefox, no sense in being a hypocrite here and letting Piefed do just about.
Skavau@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
What are they in for? The site seems to work fine from a user perspective.
That is from an auto-federation system for instances to bulk add new comms across instances. Any community can still be manually added. And I think those may have been removed now. I can literally access enoughmuskspam@lemmy.world from piefed.social and all those other terms.
All new admins need to do to change things is to untick boxes.
BB84@mander.xyz 3 weeks ago
Fox News would seem like a perfectly fine source of news if you get all your news from Fox News, wouldn’t you agree?
And you can still manually get any news you want from other channels, Fox News just won’t show them.
(I am not saying PieFed is as bad as Fox News, just trying to make an analogy to show that something that “seems to work fine” can be pretty bad for the users nonetheless)
Skavau@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
I don’t get this comparison. You are scrutinising the code here as if people coming here without knowledge of how awful it apparently is will apparently be in for a rough ride. That the code excludes communities with certain keywords from being automatically added by the mass federation tool used only by instance owners (many of which have been removed now - as much of it was a copy and paste job from communities designated to shed content after 6 months) doesn’t actually impact the user experience just using the site.
BB84@mander.xyz 3 weeks ago
To me, the sloppy codebase means I wouldn’t want to selfhost it. And the presence of hardcoded filtering of things the devs dislike (even if it can be manually worked around) is for me a very good indicator that more shenanigans will come along the line.
If you have no problems with what I mentioned then I don’t think we have much in common ground to argue on. You can enjoy PieFed and I will continue to enjoy Lemmy.
I just want people to be informed about these things that I find highly problematic before they decide to use or selfhost PieFed.