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Dequei@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
Just use Librewolf
in_my_honest_opinion@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
The relevant bit from the second link:
The settings that Mozilla packaged in were the main big ones, Claude, ChatGPT etc, it didn’t look like any of them were locally hosted or even if a locally hosted model could be chose. Local AI… where the model itself and all the token are processed on either your own machine or another machine controlled by you certainly isn’t violating privacy, but as I said the choices on offer were none of these.
LibreWolf by default gets rid of anything that seeks to abuse your right to privacy, you won’t even find Google or Bing in your search engine. Naturally this will also apply to AI providers. Unfortunately, at the moment, we can’t trust Mozilla and by extension with AI items so these things were removed. That doesn’t mean you can’t install third party AI extensions.
in_my_honest_opinion@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Thanks for taking the time I didn’t initially have to provide context.
Also if privacy is more of a goal you can self host a search engine with searxng
FenderStratocaster@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
I know I’ll get flak for this, but I am sticking with FireFox, because it saves my passwords.
gustofwind@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’d recommend switching to something like Bitwarden for your passwords so you can take them with you and also switch your stuff around if you ever want to
FenderStratocaster@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
You CAN export them. I migrated to Ff from Chrome a while back.
KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
You can, and they sync with your Mozilla account. I had your reasoning when using Microslop Edge and Microslop Authenticator. I set up Bitwarden now and while it’s not perfect, I do prefer to have full control of my passwords.
MunkyNutts@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’ve been using Librewolf for some months now. You can migrate your Firefox profile into Librewolf, that’s what I did and it retained my passwords. I’m not very tech savvy but it does have some kinks, my browser clock is off I’ve tried tinkering with it but gave up. And especially with the Resist Fingerprinting enabled it seems to not retain my 2 factor id for sites when I ask it to remember me.
FenderStratocaster@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
I’m going to save your comment and install it on my Linux machine when I get home.
idyllic@feddit.cl 2 weeks ago
Was about to say exactly this same thing…
LibreWolf here I come…
bootleg@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Your browser clock is not off. LibreWolf, Tor Browser, Mullvad Browser etc. set your browser’s reported timezone to GMT to not reveal which timezone you’re actually in.
And I don’t understand what you’re talking about in the last sentence.
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Sounds like a cookie isn’t being saved, so they have to enter their 2fa every time instead of having the site trust the browser
ruby@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
your clock is off because you have resistfingerprinting turned on, so it puts you into utc+0 to prevent tracking.
and you have to explicitly allow to save cookies for specific domains to not get logged out (check out the padlock icon in the status bar, there’s an option to keep data for the domain you’re on)
acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
The clock is part of their fingerprinting resistance strategy. It doesn’t provide correct timezone info to sites.
Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
So can librewolf
You can still use firefox sync as well
TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
it’s got settings
Well yeah, Librewolf is basically nothing but settings.
Firefox settings.
Confuses me no end when people rage against Mozilla and then recommend a product that cannot exist without Mozilla.
Nindelofocho@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Whats confusing about it? People took something that was going bad and made it good again. Thats the benefit of open source. Even if Mozilla goes closed source the already existing forks can continue
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
A software has roughly three parts: core functionality, UI, default settings. Zen does the UI part and default settings different.
the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Try waterfox maybe?
FenderStratocaster@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
Waterfox are you talkin’ about? Am I right?!?!?!?! lol
in_my_honest_opinion@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
Waterfox? Fennec-about-it!
albbi@piefed.ca 2 weeks ago
You can switch to WaterFox and it seamlessly uses the FireFox sync to use all your passwords. Very easy drop in replacement.
CheerfulPassionFruit@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
As a libreworlf user, I’d have to advise some caution to regular users. A lot of sites are broken as images won’t load and “fancier” web apps don’t work super well either. Yes it’s an easy fix, but expecting someone to go look in the config files to get an image to load is too much for a lot of people
Dequei@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
That’s why I recommend Waterfox instead to non technical users
in_my_honest_opinion@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
I haven’t experienced this behavior. Can you provide a URL for me to test against.
cley_faye@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Open netflix. Even with a lot of features turned off and DRM enabled, it will regularly fail to load any content.
And, yes, the general user will want sites like netflix to work.
in_my_honest_opinion@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Weird, app.plex.tv, emby client, jellyfin client, netflix.com, and prime video at https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/ are all currently working for me. Can you share your LibreFox config? Maybe I can help you fix it.
funkyfarmington@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Same. No issues at all.
PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I think even with Librewolf you need to open the about:config page and disable browser.ml settings.
Kr4u7@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
afaik is that fixed by now - the team strongly opposes ai and stated that they want to keep it as clean as possible
PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Oh, glad to hear that. I still check out of privacy-guarding habit.
Kr4u7@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
Fair and valid.
Electricd@lemmybefree.net 2 weeks ago
The defaults are bad and some options are either: fully protect fingerprinting OR no protection at all
ken@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
Grumpy ken thinks “Just use Foo” meming is promoting mindless use and I think should therefore be discouraged. Even in jest I think this affects us subconsciously to feel more comfortable with not thinking deeper for ourselves. Even if X is the right one. “Use Foo already!” is nicer~!
If I may illustrate:
Use Konform Browser already!
edible_funk@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
What about mobile?
Dequei@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Ironfox
NotSteve_@piefed.ca 3 weeks ago
I really like the Zen browser. It’s Firefox-based, open source and privacy focused with AI removed but it’s also really pretty and is built around vertical tabs
Anarki_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Zen browser my beloved 🥰
JayGray91@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
I love zen browser and its workspaces. I just cannot use any other Firefox forks anymore without it. It’s more than just containers in Firefox.
akilou@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Ia this just desktop? No mobile?
NotSteve_@piefed.ca 2 weeks ago
For the time being yeah. I still use Firefox on mobile myself but I do hope they release a mobile version at some point
acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
Ironfox on mobile of you’d like no telemetery and enhanced privacy.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
You know what would be nice? If the group gets saved as bookmarks (maybe
Session/session-name) and you could just save/load such a session as a group.